[D19NL B]

Crikey Dan, its getting a bit serious now, A duel first and now wagers, whats next? Racing for pink slips (I guess thats reg docs in the UK )

Somebody is confident that the 11.55 wont be beaten. Better hope that there isn't a 20mph tailwind!

His over confidence is interesting to say the least!

[MacD]

Was the 11.55 set using a different map/ecu to that used on the road though?   I'd heard it wasn't something that would be used daily as it was too much..... stand to be corrected though as it was something i was told by a big name tuner. 

 

If thats the case then it isn't going to be beaten by a daily mapped car? 

 

PS. not slagging it off as low figures are great, just saying

[D19NL B]

Was the 11.55 set using a different map/ecu to that used on the road though? I'd heard it wasn't something that would be used daily as it was too much..... stand to be corrected though as it was something i was told by a big name tuner.

If thats the case then it isn't going to be beaten by a daily mapped car?

PS. not slagging it off as low figures are great, just saying

Haha who said this? Not the first time it's been mentioned but Shaun will say 100% it was the same map I had on my car (I didn't put that on the strip though so could have been non road worthy lol).

Anyway will see when there are more Litchfield mapped cars and whether they get anywhere near his times, mine being one of them...

[Shaunee]

I say one thing in jest to an individual privately, then that gets posted on a public forum.

Nice one Dan!

[Shaunee]

Was the 11.55 set using a different map/ecu to that used on the road though? I'd heard it wasn't something that would be used daily as it was too much..... stand to be corrected though as it was something i was told by a big name tuner.

If thats the case then it isn't going to be beaten by a daily mapped car?

PS. not slagging it off as low figures are great, just saying

Whoever told you that is simply talking out of their RS!

Haters are always gonna hate.

That map had been on the car from Sept/Oct 2016, which was the outcome of my original Stage 2 development.

A couple of weeks after the 11.55 I went back to the pod again. That time I achieved 3-4 11.65s passes. That was on a fully prepped track, which slows our types of cars down.

When I went with the MRC boys I then tried a different map. I was slower than previously, so that map wasn't as good.

With the initial map and my car, I still think it has a 11.4x in it on the right day, based on the logs I have.

[Fivepotfan]

Whoever told you that is simply talking out of their RS!

Haters are always gonna hate.

That map had been on the car from Sept/Oct 2016, which was the outcome of my original Stage 2 development.

A couple of weeks after the 11.55 I went back to the pod again. That time I achieved 3-4 11.65s passes. That was on a fully prepped track, which slows our types of cars down.

When I went with the MRC boys I then tried a different map. I was slower than previously, so that map wasn't as good.

With the initial map and my car, I still think it has a 11.4x in it on the right day, based on the logs I have.

 

Shaun,

 

I PM'd you the week before the MRC v Litchfield runs at SP on the 30th April. I was asking if you would be using the Litcho V2 map to which you replied that it was not on your car. Now it seems that you admit to changing the map for the SP runs we did, I can only assume as a bit of oneupmanship to try to get one over on the MRC cars? A bit cheeky though.

 

If I recall correctly, your Stage 2 map which produced the 11.55 time was running around 450ps and 444lbs/ft of torque (can you repost the dyno graph?), now I know there are dyno's and then there are dyno's, but the plot for the new APR 2+ is showing similar power but some monstrous torque gains (nearly 100lbs/ft more than the Litcho map) and not just peaky either.

Hardly surprising that MacD's post questioned the confidence in your time not being beaten by anyone else.

Edited by Fivepotfan, 05 August 2017 - 04:29 PM.

[Caney]

Most stage 2 cars whether Revo,Apr,MRC,Litchfield etc will do 11.8 to 11.6 1/4's i reckon.It's purely down to grip on the day,as the track rubbers in you will go faster.The problem with Santapod now is you'll be lucky to get a run every 45 mins its so busy👎

Edited by Caney, 05 August 2017 - 03:51 PM.

[Fivepotfan]

Haha who said this? Not the first time it's been mentioned but Shaun will say 100% it was the same map I had on my car (I didn't put that on the strip though so could have been non road worthy lol).

Anyway will see when there are more Litchfield mapped cars and whether they get anywhere near his times, mine being one of them...

So should we expect to see your car getting on or around an 11.4 then?

[D19NL B]

I say one thing in jest to an individual privately, then that gets posted on a public forum.

Nice one Dan!

Lmfao I've never said anything about it, blame the other loud mouth!

[D19NL B]

Shaun,

I PM'd you the week before the MRC v Litchfield runs at SP on the 30th April. I was asking if you would be using the Litcho V2 map to which you replied that it was not on your car. Now it seems that you admit to changing the map for the SP runs we did, I can only assume as a bit of oneupmanship to try to get one over on the MRC cars? A bit cheeky though.

If I recall correctly, your Stage 2 map which produced the 11.55 time was running around 450ps and 444lbs/ft of torque (can you repost the dyno graph?), now I know there are dyno's and then there are dyno's, but the plot for the new APR 2+ is showing similar power but some monstrous torque gains (nearly 100lbs/ft more than the Litcho map) and not just peaky either.
Hardly surprising that MacD's post questioned the confidence in your time not being beaten by anyone else.

To be fair, the drag strip isn't about that peak torque, it's about the power underneath the graph after 4.5k rpm, that's where the real damage is down the strip.

[MacD]

Whoever told you that is simply talking out of their RS!

Haters are always gonna hate.

That map had been on the car from Sept/Oct 2016, which was the outcome of my original Stage 2 development.

A couple of weeks after the 11.55 I went back to the pod again. That time I achieved 3-4 11.65s passes. That was on a fully prepped track, which slows our types of cars down.

When I went with the MRC boys I then tried a different map. I was slower than previously, so that map wasn't as good.

With the initial map and my car, I still think it has a 11.4x in it on the right day, based on the logs I have.

 

 

I understand they may have pushed the boundaries on testing and perhaps after viewing the data logs after the those better runs they decided to reign in a few things to keep it safe?

 

Interesting to know from them what they changed on your second map and the theory behind it.  I'm sure they wouldn't say though as its kept pretty hush hush.

 

Should be good to see what other cars mapped by the same tuner do on the same day under the same conditions, that will be the test of how good the software is.  

[Shaunee]

Shaun,

I PM'd you the week before the MRC v Litchfield runs at SP on the 30th April. I was asking if you would be using the Litcho V2 map to which you replied that it was not on your car. Now it seems that you admit to changing the map for the SP runs we did, I can only assume as a bit of oneupmanship to try to get one over on the MRC cars? A bit cheeky though.

If I recall correctly, your Stage 2 map which produced the 11.55 time was running around 450ps and 444lbs/ft of torque (can you repost the dyno graph?), now I know there are dyno's and then there are dyno's, but the plot for the new APR 2+ is showing similar power but some monstrous torque gains (nearly 100lbs/ft more than the Litcho map) and not just peaky either.
Hardly surprising that MacD's post questioned the confidence in your time not being beaten by anyone else.

I changed the map the day before we went to the pod. It wasn't pre-planned, I just happened to mention to Iain about getting back down the strip and a slot the day before was available. I was more concerned about getting in the 11.4's, not beating anyone else.

My remark about my time was made in utter jest to Dan on a private one to one message. No more and no less.

I've said before that I'm not interested in what others achieve, only what my own car achieves.

It's clear that others have been making things up about the map on the car when it achieved that 11.55s pass. It's not the case, but I find this is to be the norm in the tuning world.

I have nothing to hide. The car has done that time on no "special" map. It was what it was.
I'm one of the few that actually put their car under the microscope. It does what it does, good or bad.

On the strip or any acceleration run for that matter, it's all about the top end power curve.

I'm on Stage 3 now, so I'm looking forward to what I achieve with that.

[Kibber]

I must be missing something, the power and times from your RS3's are very impressive. I have loved my 8V for two years now, with absolutely no issues and zero brake noise.... is it just me? I am not looking to sell and have no ongoing issues, other than stupid service prices.

I love Santa Pod so much, but it always makes me realise that my fantastic RS3 is certainly not up there. It is a luxury fast and rare Audi... but how many quick cars at Pod could annihilate an RS3, many.

Kibber

[Kibber]

As a road Car and for exclusivity, they are something else. Other than the serious price increases for no good reason, it is a winning combination. I just also realise that in the racing arena, that there are some seriously quick cars out there.

Kibber

[terminator x]

When I was at Rockingham there wasn't much quicker than my standard car (when I was running) over the 1/8th mile other than a R8 and some tuned diesels it is a very fast standard car remember. 

 

TX.

[Shaunee]

I understand they may have pushed the boundaries on testing and perhaps after viewing the data logs after the those better runs they decided to reign in a few things to keep it safe?

Interesting to know from them what they changed on your second map and the theory behind it. I'm sure they wouldn't say though as its kept pretty hush hush.

Should be good to see what other cars mapped by the same tuner do on the same day under the same conditions, that will be the test of how good the software is.

There was nothing in my previous map that "needed" changing, and certainly nothing from a safety perspective.

Further revisions have been made, but a lot of the tweaks to the retail versions have been around tightening up the boost control afaik.

I know a fair bit about mapping so when I work with whomever, I get involved in agreeing the strategy and make suggestions etc. I also always ask a lot of questions with elements that I don't understand the "why" of.

The changes made for that last pod outing were of my request and direction. I wanted to try a different ignition map profile. Boost was not increased.

It didn't appear to work as well at the strip. That's all part of the development for me..... learning.

Like I said, I'm only interested in my car and how it performs.

I don't turn up at a tuner and hand over a load of cash, with the remit of "make x power". I want to be involved in the whole process. Not many companies would like that approach I suspect, but it's the way I like to work. It costs me a lot more cash for sure, but I learn much more and find it so much more enjoyable. It also enables me to document these journeys like I do.

[D19NL B]

There was nothing in my previous map that "needed" changing, and certainly nothing from a safety perspective.

Further revisions have been made, but a lot of the tweaks to the retail versions have been around tightening up the boost control afaik.

I know a fair bit about mapping so when I work with whomever, I get involved in agreeing the strategy and make suggestions etc. I also always ask a lot of questions with elements that I don't understand the "why" of.

The changes made for that last pod outing were of my request and direction. I wanted to try a different ignition map profile. Boost was not increased.

It didn't appear to work as well at the strip. That's all part of the development for me..... learning.

Like I said, I'm only interested in my car and how it performs.

I don't turn up at a tuner and hand over a load of cash, with the remit of "make x power". I want to be involved in the whole process. Not many companies would like that approach I suspect, but it's the way I like to work. It costs me a lot more cash for sure, but I learn much more and find it so much more enjoyable. It also enables me to document these journeys like I do.

To say I've learnt a lot from Shaun is an understatement, very knowledgeable guy when it comes to tuning at I know I'm safe when it comes to a map he's had a part in developing, coupled with litchfield being able to accommodate me for any issues makes me feel very comfortable. Many people have gone to other tuners but Shaun did sell it to me well and I know we have our banter and this has escalated a little with him having to explain himself (apologies) but it's all part of the tuning world imho.

With my own car I've had my issues, I'm still frustrated with it tbh that's why I'm itching to get back to the strip as there is just something not quite there, although I haven't tested it since getting my air leak fixed so let's see how it performs on the drag strip next week.

Let the games begin.

[Shaunee]

So with all that now said, apologies to Irfy for derailing his thread about his APR tune.

I'm more than happy to answer questions / have further discussion about my car and it's tuning, but perhaps we should confine that to my project thread on this forum.

Apologies from my side once again to lrfy. Would be awesome to see you down the strip at some point. It's stressful and competitive.... but a load of fun!