[P_G]

More mud to the waters - according to two Revo agents I spoke to today, all Revo maps have been installed through the OBD port since November 2014 and both have done remaps on RS3/TT RS without any problems 

 

Get it booked in then and see what happens!

[booker]

Too late, I already have! Plus Milltek cat back - I'll post developments 

[Jmcnamee98]

More mud to the waters - according to two Revo agents I spoke to today, all Revo maps have been installed through the OBD port since November 2014 and both have done remaps on RS3/TT RS without any problems

If they are able to do that then worth considering, even if the APR map is perceived to offer better peak gains, smoother delivery and more torque throughout the Rev range. Not least as my ECU looks like an old cat scratching post and Revo offer some level of map / program switching something promised for the RS3 that's never materialised from APR.

Edited by Jmcnamee98, 05 June 2015 - 08:23 PM.

[P_G]

I don't recall it being promised by APR as in 'we promise to provide you switching by a set date'. But as a business if I were given the choice of developing from scratch switchable program for an ECU with limited production numbers and even more limited owners who wanted to remap versus developing it for 2.0 TFSi or TDI ECU's which have huge potential across the V.A.G. range in term of numbers I know which I would do first. The question is whether APR will ever do APR mobile for the 2.5 5cyl ME9 application and if so, when. Wayne? 

 

For everyone negative comment there are always a good number more positive that are never heard. I'd suggest if you are concerned about the state of your ECU you take your franchise to task as mine seemingly isn't in the same state and consciously so.

 

Equally I am keen to know exactly how REVO do OBD-II mapping on a locked ECU so if an explanation is available it would be very useful to know. 

Edited by P_G, 06 June 2015 - 07:58 AM.

[booker]

You could always call a Revo dealer and ask 

[AudiRS3]

More mud to the waters - according to two Revo agents I spoke to today, all Revo maps have been installed through the OBD port since November 2014 and both have done remaps on RS3/TT RS without any problems

At this rate, Revo is cheaper than APR, and can map through an OBD, recently my cars engine management light has come on and it's not even been mapped. I have it booked in with Audi on Wednesday and as I am still in warranty if Audi check if the ECU has been removed my warranty will be revoked! For this reason alone I cannot risk getting a Map until the RS is sorted! Just so frustrating....choices choices !


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Edited by AudiRS3, 06 June 2015 - 03:56 PM.

[Jmcnamee98]

I don't recall it being promised by APR as in 'we promise to provide you switching by a set date'. But as a business if I were given the choice of developing from scratch switchable program for an ECU with limited production numbers and even more limited owners who wanted to remap versus developing it for 2.0 TFSi or TDI ECU's which have huge potential across the V.A.G. range in term of numbers I know which I would do first. The question is whether APR will ever do APR mobile for the 2.5 5cyl ME9 application and if so, when. Wayne?

For everyone negative comment there are always a good number more positive that are never heard. I'd suggest if you are concerned about the state of your ECU you take your franchise to task as mine seemingly isn't in the same state and consciously so.

Equally I am keen to know exactly how REVO do OBD-II mapping on a locked ECU so if an explanation is available it would be very useful to know.

Without wanting to get too into the semantics

Program switching was announced for the TTRS 2.5 5cyl ME9 application October 24th 2013 http://www.goapr.com...gram-switching/

APR Mobile was announced for the 2.5 5cyl ME9 application January 22nd 2014 http://www.goapr.co....cts/mobile.html

APR mobile has been on my car for some time but program switching is not yet available for the RS3 as they have a different box code to the the US TTRS.

Read through those articles and call it what you will but for some time a reasonable expectation was set by APR themselves that program switching would come to the RS3 and it has not to date. I have received personal assurances from APR that it's still requested but never see any progress.

[jaybyme]

Not sure if I've posted in this forum before ?,

If not I'm Jay, owner of the first APR stage III stronic mapped in the UK a few years back now.

Just to let you know,before I went to stage III , I was testing stage 1 and 2 maps for APR in Germany on the autobahns.

As I quite often drive to the UK , I would pop into Milton Keynes, get the car setup whilst the guys from APR USA were in the country and then drive back to Germany.

Later I started testing with stage III and since then I have done 98,100,102 octane map testing and now I'm on stage III + with engine re-build from Racing Developments.

I also have a racing DSG clutch and updates from TVS in Holland, as APR have no DSG maps for our cars.

It could be that to get the car to work perfectly, I will have to try TVS's engine software that they have been working on,as it's best that the TCU and ECU are working in harmony with each other.

Before any one ask's, I have no exact idea what power I'm running at the moment.

The car has been setup on dyno's before but we have found that it's far better setting the engine and dsg up on the road.Thank God for autobahns, lol.

I can say that before the engine build, power figures I have seen ranged from the early days 400 hp,535 lb/ft on stage II(Forge road intercooler) and with stage III,  560 hp on Vpower in the Uk to 620 HP on 102 in Germany. 100-200 kmh times came down to around 8secs stage II and from 6.4 sec to 6.1 stage III.Since then I have done  5.8 and 5.6 secs with the engine re-build.

I will have to do some more testing again once newer TCU software is on the car and if I go for a high boost TVS ECU map ?

 

As far as reliability goes.

The car has done 80,000 km now and was first tuned with 9000 km on the clock.

I've done 30,000 km with stage III with plenty of hard driving,although with stage III it's pretty hard to really thrash the car, even on the autobahns.

In the early days we had the normal problems with the speed limiter coming back in and an overboost problem,but these were fixed easily and quickly.

The clutch was changed at my request and not because it needed to be,though we did see that the clutch was slipping in launch mode.

When the engine was stripped, all parts looked perfect even after 17,000 km of stage III .

 

APR have always given great support,even if sometimes it takes a bit of time due to the time difference when the engineers are in the US.

Any way hope this helps those wondering about APR and maps in the UK.

[AudiRS3]

APR have always given great support,even if sometimes it takes a bit of time due to the time difference when the engineers are in the US.

Any way hope this helps those wondering about APR and maps in the UK.

 

Get some pictures up bud! Would be keen to see the motor after all these additions! 

[jaybyme]

Here you go.

Summer/ Winter shots and an up to date pic of the engine bay.

 

 

[P_G]

Liking the carbon air box and intake pipe, are they TTRS specific and where from?

Edited by P_G, 10 July 2015 - 05:06 PM.

[marshy]

Yeah as above
Very nice

[jaybyme]

There were only 1 red and 1 or 2 black carbon intakes made by a guy in Romania.

The parts are not the same quality as say APR intakes,but it looks the parts and works well.

My shift revs are set at 7150 rpm,engine rev limiter at 7500 but for some reason shift revs in S mode changed back to 6800 rpm

Driving back up to Holland Wednesday to have a few updates to the DSG software.Not sure exactly what they are,but obviously they have found a few improvements since we first developed software for the RS stronic.

[Josh]

I have no real need for a DSG map but when I hit the magic 500 number, which I will in the next year or so as I'm sold on a 500+ RS3 it'll be in my list of things to do. Does it make a big difference mate?

[jaybyme]

The main difference will be if your original map is restricting torque once tuned.

A new DSG map is a must for higher torque and it's nice to have shift revs raised to much engine performance.

I know TVS who did my DSG maps have also mapped a 500 + RS3.