AMD have a decent rep and lots of the RS4 community use them for carbon clean etc. which is a lot more risky. You also have the 30money back guarantee with APR
I don't have any issues with the APR stage 1 product however I'm not sure the marketing of the gains is accurate and same would be said of stage 2 it would appear.
Edited by P_G, 21 May 2014 - 08:21 PM.
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The APR TTRS run today at Awesome was my own, very similar almost identical hardware spec to the MRC car.
My car was running 388 two weeks ago when I went for a reflash, scratched our heads, and then arranged this dyno run in order to get logs from my car, it just so happened my friend was available to come as a comparison in order to check the Dyno wasn't duff etc. As he ran at MRC a few weeks ago and was getting 430-440bhp on their Dyno.
No software/hardware changes have taken place to either car before todays dyno. So as far as we are concerned, its same day same dyno runs within 30 mins of each other. You have an overlay graph above, so whats to complain about...
Ambient temps of 28C result in lower figures than we would like to talk about in the pub, but what we are looking at here is a comparison.
I can't see any foul play here, the graph shows what it shows.
Point of posting on here was to illustrate that a low powered stage 2 finally ran some good figures, perhaps the reason for this is still unknown. And yes I would love to know the ins and outs, but realistically there are probably too many variables...
Sikc of chasing numbers and expectations, the car is poo off a stick. Im happy.
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Mal,
I bought my mrs an S3 with 13000 miles on it about 4 years back i had a company car at the time but loved driving the S3 when i could .
I changed jobs and so the company car went and I had the S3 for about 7 months it was remapped stage 1 at Celtic tuning (mobile)
I then spoke to a few people who had S3's and they told me what they had done to their cars none of them had many good things to say about AMD not sure why this was but if people say these thing it puts doubt in your mind
But i did go there for an uprated clutch as the standard S3 one could not take the power and slipped like buggery after it had a stage 3 tune (shark tuning) air induction. uprated fuel pump and a straight through milltek.it was very fast and the mrs hated the new clutch because it was to stiff (ooh er) and had no issues with it.
But as I mentioned in another thread when I rang them (amd) for a remap they offered me their own map and I had to ask for a APR one if I had not have checked it was APR who knows what they would have put on my ecu?
Prior to setting up this club, I emailed MRC on 9 occasions and called them on 3 occasions about getting my car mapped, on all occasions I got no contact....so what is the score with customer support IF you eventually got your car mapped?...if you can't do the little things well, then that paints a pretty dim portrait of a business IMHO.
Not offence to MRC, but running a small unit in Banbury or APR running in various global locations and working directly with Audi LMS teams with massive resources behind them.
Who ya gonna call? (sings)
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Just goes to show different tuners and different dynos give different numbers. In theory the MRC Stage 2 TTRS that they posted on FB yesterday could perceivably run 390 at Awesome same as the one you had there. ReeveRS, did your friends TTRS have MRC's s-tronic map as well?
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Just goes to show different tuners and different dynos give different numbers. In theory the MRC Stage 2 TTRS that they posted on FB yesterday could perceivably run 390 at Awesome same as the one you had there. ReeveRS, did your friends TTRS have MRC's s-tronic map as well?
Yes it did,
And MacD I had sotkc map a few weeks ago due to warranty work, had map ref lashed 2 weeks ago and ran low figures even though car had V-Power, just as it did yesterday.
Who's Dyno is irrelevant, point is the comparison if you want to compare the maps. We were using his car to see if there was something horribly out with mine or the Dyno, this proved not to be the case.
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We looked at doing this test, in as unbiased and scientific way as possible.
Everyone will have their opinion, their favourite tuner and hardware provider. The point of this test was to help Brad get to the bottom of why his car wasn't running the figures he expected.
Variables such as temperature, humidity, IATs (if IC'ed or not), heat soak, fuel quality etc all play a part when looking to get numbers.
Both of these cars were run with the same parameters, by the same technician, within 30minutes of each other. Dyno settings all the same.
This wasn't done to discredit any other tuners figures or to be a witch hunt, but what we needed was an alternative vehicle with the same spec to create a comparison. Had the figures been lower on the APR car we would have posted the graph exactly the same and then proceeded to look into why and work on a fix.
We have a process, that will be run on all RS3's on the RR day to make sure should any of you have any questions post dyno run we can help and if need be we can send the data to APR HQ if we are not able to notice anything ourselves and work on getting the best for you guys.
Please understand, APR as a global brand is huge but that doesn't mean the support isn't their it just means that sometimes due to commitments in other markets we just need a little bit of patience from you 
Im happy to answer any questions anyone has and try and satisfy any insecurities you might have of going for APR software or hardware
You were more persistant than me!
I sent two emails then made two phone calls...
Had the same thought about what if there was a problem?
ReeveRS it's strange how your BHP jumped up quite a bit though, we've not had a single RS3 make quoted figures yet!!
How long has it been mapped and have you changed fuel?
Months ago when these discrepancies started it was stated by the "tuners" that the reason why the RS3 was not reaching the quoted gains was because the original development map was done on the TTRS which was putting down more power than the RS3 in stock form.As MacD says "we've not had a single RS3 make quoted figures yet!!" so no disrespect to TTRS owners but APR should be addressing the RS3's shortfalls [as this is an RS3 forum] .If the RS3 is not able to make the same power as the TTRS APR should be providing separate figures for the RS3,this is similar to the Audi ENCAP story thats been in the news recently.
Just for the record i have never had any of my cars mapped so my opinions are not biased towards any particular party.
Edited by DAYTONA-500, 22 May 2014 - 11:44 AM.
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Thats hopefully something we will be able to get more data on at the RR day.
A quick check shows that the TTRS and RS3 share a large part of the same hardware (same engine and gearbox codes, same ecu box codes). Now that we have the data from Brads car and have had it looked at and all seems ok, we can move onto the RS3 cars that show issues and move forward.
IIRC the TTRS makes more power then the RS3 due to a more efficient air flow both in through air-box architecture and freer flowing exhaust which is why they sound better OEM as well. Hark back to the conversation that the RS3 and TTRS should have independent power figures quoted on sites rather than a generic range both for OEM and mapping gains,
Edited by P_G, 23 May 2014 - 07:27 AM.
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Toby did they solve the missing bhp? Any explanation
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Ahhh right only reason am asking is just had stage 2 on mine it ran 388 bhp and 501 torques
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TBH on a dyno second run is usually best which for your stage car means it will already be suffering from heat soak so an IC would defo. be handy and I would say a necessity for Stage II to achieve full potential.
Edited by P_G, 01 August 2014 - 08:31 PM.
TBH on a dyno second run is usually best which for your stage car means it will already be suffering from heat soak so an IC would defo. be handy and I would say a necessity for Stage II to achieve full potential.
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TBH on a dyno second run is usually best which for your stage car means it will already be suffering from heat soak so an IC would defo. be handy and I would say a necessity for Stage II to achieve full potential.
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