[mrAudi]

Had mine on a 4 wheel FIA approved dyno today & it's doing under 400 & even less than it was running on stage 1 without all the hardware

[Klauster]

All dynos different

[Klauster]

Some interior carbon might speed it up

[mrAudi]

All dynos different

Not this different APR seem to have sacrificed BHP for toque In stage 2

[P_G]

I imagine the area under the curve is significantly better though. IIRC Chris said the same thing on his Stage II car which is why he queried APR, not sure what their answer was.

[mrAudi]

I imagine the area under the curve is significantly better though. IIRC Chris said the same thing on his Stage II car which is why he queried APR, not sure what their answer was.

I think the answer if I remember right from the thread was " your figures are about right "

[mrAudi]

I'm not expecting bang on 420 like advertised just was not expecting less for a lot of time & money if I had known this I would of saved my money stayed on stage 1 & be sat on a beach somewhere with the money I would of saved

[Kelza]

You could have rented my house in Spain for a year

[Roy]

Kel,

can I test your house in spain for two weeks in august to see if I would like to rent it at a later date ????

[Chris]

Yeah I was told the Delta gains were pretty much bang on it's not what I expected from stage 2 but have to concede the car is quicker for it

[Kelza]

Lol it's rented out on a 12 months contract

[Roy]

self self self

[Kelza]

Would a autotech hpfp and a 4' to 3" inch down pipe not help ?

[mrAudi]

You could have rented my house in Spain for a year

We already have a big house in Spain

[Chris]

HPFP might help but it's not needed with Stage 2 and there very expensive. The downpipe dilemma has went on for ages and from what I've read and results seen the modified OEM downpipe yields the same sort of gains as an aftermarket item from the likes of milltek etc.

It's just the way APR are going with there software I think

[mrAudi]

I have spoken to awesome tonight as they are now APR uk & they seem to think there is a problem & would like to run diagnostics as they are the ones that mapped it to stage 2

[mrAudi]

I'm just going to make a suggestion here but do cars that have a stage 3 map do they get even less ponies??

[Uncle Fester]

I see the soap opera has started again, people are still paying good money to let the "experts " experiment on their cars

[Klauster]

All that lipstick on your car has added more weight

Ah that must be it

[ReeveRS]

Interesting... In reality at this time of year, the stage 2 as advertised a year ago with all the hardware should be striking mid 400s.... Yet we are getting 400bhp and similar torque to Stage 1. Yes area under the graph may be better, and that prolonged torque probably makes the difference in daily driving... 

But as stated, stage 2 should yield greater figures and overall increases than stage 1. I have had several version on my car and I'm scratching my head with where APR are going. A little concerned that my turbo maybe boosting too much for too long with their plan of torque action.