[deepspacemillar]

Absolutely Shaunee - different surfaces and different needs. I just mentioned because of your previous axle tramp issues. I had been planning to get the dogbone mount to negate it but now I'll wait until I go to stage 2 or 3 (money permitting...)

[Caney]

Saturday 13th May at Santapod should he a good one Shaun,late runs till 8pm as well

[Shaunee]

Saturday 13th May at Santapod should he a good one Shaun,late runs till 8pm as well

 

Best of luck Bud.... I'm expecting yours to do well. 

 

Mine will be going into Litchos that day for the Stage 3 work to commence! 

[rocketer]

Best of luck Bud.... I'm expecting yours to do well. 
 
Mine will be going into Litchos that day for the Stage 3 work to commence! 

What time are you happy with at Santa Pod with a full stage 3 and what hw are you going to use? Interesting of course would be to know what numbers and cost approx for the whole party or is it a secret ?

[Shaunee]

It's not really a Stage 3 as it will probably end up well beyond that.

 

I suspect things may will change along the way but broad brush:

 

Syvecs ECU

Fueling mods

Induction

Turbo and pipework

£10+k for parts

 

Forge build

£??k

 

There could be other things as well I'm sure.

 

Power - More than 453bhp

Strip - Lower than a 11.55s

 

 

I have a goal in mind in respect of the road performance against a certain Supercar, but I'll explain that further down the line.

[rocketer]

Nice spec . What is Syvecs ecu, stand alone, piggyback? Probably gonna be fast . 

[Shaunee]

Nice spec . What is Syvecs ecu, stand alone, piggyback? Probably gonna be fast . 

 

 

• Live Tuning of every aspect of the engine’s calibration, including signals sent to the DSG
• Full Direct Injection and Pump Control
• 8 Injector Support with 4 Port Injectors
• Ability to select desired engine map, boost level, traction and launch control levels through steering wheel buttons
• Fully adjustable Launch control with Anti-lag strategies and Ramp in Maps
• Full Variable Valve Timing control
• Flex Fuel control
• Cruise Control
• Fully functional with every other Ecu on the Car
• Closed loop Dual Lambda Control
• Fully adjustable closed loop boost control with launch level adjustments and trims for turbo speed, air charge, engine coolant temp, exhaust gas temperatures etc
• Monitor and trimming of exhaust gas temperatures
• Flat Shift
• Built in data logging using a market leading analysis software of up to 8 hours, with data rates at up to 1000hz
• Rolling Antilag / Pit lane limiter strategies, great for building boost on a roll
• Antitheft and valet modes
• Super fast connection via RJ45 Ethernet port for live tuning anywhere in the world or even remotely if on track if connected to a wireless unit.
• Adjustable traction control strategies based on lateral g and  individual wheel speed monitoring.
• 4 programmable target slip maps. An immediate torque reduction can be applied by the ECU via ignition retard or a fuel cut.
• Configurable Engine Safety Trips on all important parameters like oil temperature, oil pressure.
• Fuel pump control of both main, and sub pumps, as well as Relative fuel pressure monitoring and limiting in the event of fuel pressure dropping on boost.
• 4 different Pedal to Throttle Angle maps with multipliers for different parameters e.g. speed. Again adjustable via steering wheel buttons
• Configurable individual cylinder closed loop knock control, to suit any cylinder modification with adjustments to frequency, windows for listening and gains for each cylinder. Ability to trigger full cylinder shutdown in severe knock conditions.
• Change torque reduction levels on shifts. Essential for very high power applications where the maximum reduction available via the stock ECU is not enough to prevent damage to components
• Ability to change Torque ramp in after launch
• Change throttle blip requests to match your torque band. Especially useful on oversized turbo installations.
• Run up to 7bar map sensors
• Control high or low impendence injectors
• Control up to 4 additional injectors for high power installations where staged injection may be required
• Change injector dead times based on voltage levels for proper control
• Change injector end angle to ensure injection point is properly calibrated
• Ability to fit any type of external sensor to monitor and trigger safety trips from anything from crank case pressure to damper position
• Ability to use any size DBW throttle body e.g. Chevrolet LS7
• Wet and Dry – Wet and Dry nitrous control with ability to drive solenoids directly and control n20 heaters via pressure monitoring
• Ability to control any external vehicle features based on sensor inputs e.g. Adjustable rear wing linked to G force or exhaust control valves
• Connect any race series dash or even one of our partners’ Touchscreen CANBUS adjustment /display units
• View any input live with built in scope up to 1000hz

[Shaunee]

The S6Plus ECU offers an extremely high level of precise engine management control. The triple processor unit uses a high speed RISC processor for code execution and an additional large FPGA for high speed engine position tracking, allowing the scheduling of code to be independent of signal patterns, increasing flexibility, efficiency and accuracy under transient conditions. This powerful combination also allows advanced control algorithms but yet easy to map for the end user still using our SCal software and S6 Firmware.

The Third Processor present is available for in the future users to write their own code in C for Full Vehicle Integration via Canbus and Build some custom strategies to handle some of the unique requirements which are now found in OEM Applications. Currently only Syvecs staff can do this but we are working on offering this out to all our dealers very soon!
Cased In A Sealed Aluminium Billet Unit With 3 x Waterproof Connectors Offering 94pins

Inputs

22 x General Purpose Analogue Inputs:
4 x 5V/Bipolar, Sensor/Sync/Speed, Programmable Trigger Voltages
10 x 5V/Thermistor, Sensor/Sync/Speed, Fixed Trigger Voltages
4 x 5V Sensor Input
4 x Thermistor Sensor Input

2 x Lambda Inputs Including:
- 1 x NTK, Bosch LSU4.2/4.9 or Denso AF Lambda Circuit

- 1 x Bosch LSU4.2/4.9 or Denso AF Lambda Circuit

2 x K-Type Thermocouple Circuits
2 x Knock Inputs

Outputs

24 x High/Low Side Driver Outputs:

8x Half Bridge Outputs (Max 10 Amps)
16 x Low Side Injection/PWM Outputs (Max 10 Amps)
6 x TTL Ignition Driver Or Direct Coil Drive IGBT (Solder Bridge Settings on Board)

Comms

1 x Can 2.0B

1 x Rs232 Output

1 x Kline Output

100 Mhz Full Duplex Ethernet For Connection To PC For Programming And Data Download

1MB Battery Backed Internal Logging Memory, Onboard Laptop Logging and USB Logging to be supported in the near Future for near unlimited logging of certain parameters

[Fivepotfan]

• Live Tuning of every aspect of the engine’s calibration, including signals sent to the DSG
• Full Direct Injection and Pump Control
• 8 Injector Support with 4 Port Injectors
• Ability to select desired engine map, boost level, traction and launch control levels through steering wheel buttons
• Fully adjustable Launch control with Anti-lag strategies and Ramp in Maps
• Full Variable Valve Timing control
• Flex Fuel control
• Cruise Control
• Fully functional with every other Ecu on the Car
• Closed loop Dual Lambda Control
• Fully adjustable closed loop boost control with launch level adjustments and trims for turbo speed, air charge, engine coolant temp, exhaust gas temperatures etc
• Monitor and trimming of exhaust gas temperatures
• Flat Shift
• Built in data logging using a market leading analysis software of up to 8 hours, with data rates at up to 1000hz
• Rolling Antilag / Pit lane limiter strategies, great for building boost on a roll
• Antitheft and valet modes
• Super fast connection via RJ45 Ethernet port for live tuning anywhere in the world or even remotely if on track if connected to a wireless unit.
• Adjustable traction control strategies based on lateral g and  individual wheel speed monitoring.
• 4 programmable target slip maps. An immediate torque reduction can be applied by the ECU via ignition retard or a fuel cut.
• Configurable Engine Safety Trips on all important parameters like oil temperature, oil pressure.
• Fuel pump control of both main, and sub pumps, as well as Relative fuel pressure monitoring and limiting in the event of fuel pressure dropping on boost.
• 4 different Pedal to Throttle Angle maps with multipliers for different parameters e.g. speed. Again adjustable via steering wheel buttons
• Configurable individual cylinder closed loop knock control, to suit any cylinder modification with adjustments to frequency, windows for listening and gains for each cylinder. Ability to trigger full cylinder shutdown in severe knock conditions.
• Change torque reduction levels on shifts. Essential for very high power applications where the maximum reduction available via the stock ECU is not enough to prevent damage to components
• Ability to change Torque ramp in after launch
• Change throttle blip requests to match your torque band. Especially useful on oversized turbo installations.
• Run up to 7bar map sensors
• Control high or low impendence injectors
• Control up to 4 additional injectors for high power installations where staged injection may be required
• Change injector dead times based on voltage levels for proper control
• Change injector end angle to ensure injection point is properly calibrated
• Ability to fit any type of external sensor to monitor and trigger safety trips from anything from crank case pressure to damper position
• Ability to use any size DBW throttle body e.g. Chevrolet LS7
• Wet and Dry – Wet and Dry nitrous control with ability to drive solenoids directly and control n20 heaters via pressure monitoring
• Ability to control any external vehicle features based on sensor inputs e.g. Adjustable rear wing linked to G force or exhaust control valves
• Connect any race series dash or even one of our partners’ Touchscreen CANBUS adjustment /display units
• View any input live with built in scope up to 1000hz

Jeez.....didn't know that you were planning to go to the moon!

 

Got halfway down and I thought I was reading a NASA checklist   

[Shaunee]

I think the pitlane limiter will be especially useful for when I go to the Starbucks drive-thru!

[Roy]

Pardon !

[Fivepotfan]

Pardon !

Short explanation............It's gonna be fast!

[rocketer]

No doubt about if its gonna be fast or not . Interesting project to follow and see how easy/hard it is to adept with everything, research is half of the job to get it working, nice .

[D19NL B]

Nerd

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

[Shaunee]

So… some parts have started to arrive today.

 

High Pressure Fuel Pump (HPFP)

Whilst I suspect many of you have heard of the term HPFP, some may not know what these are.

 

Cars that have direct fuel injection (as in our RS3’s) inject fuel direct into the combustion chamber via high-pressure injectors, thus improving combustion cooling and enabling higher engine efficiency which is meant to result in increased fuel efficiency and torque. This requires the use of a HPFP.

 

Direct injection diesels have been using this method for a number of years now….. Which is probably where you’re aware of the costs associated to these pumps when they fail.  They don’t appear to be cheap!

 

As with any fuel system, it’s about delivering fuel at the requested rate constantly (as required).  The OEM HPFP has its limits….. Certainly in respect of where I’m looking to go.

 

I know a few RS3 owners have had issues with OEM pumps not doing what they should do even on stock cars, let alone cars that have started to go down the Stage 1 & 2 route.

 

There are a number of options available ranging from £300 - £2200.  Quite a difference!

 

I’ve personally gone for the VIS Motorsport upgrade kit which is a new piston and sleeve.  Apparently this kit is the biggest piston available to fit the stock pump housing, enabling this specific kit to deliver enough sustained fuelling for up to 700bhp.  It also appears to be the cheapest kit available priced at around £300 delivered (this is the current offer price - normally 450 Euro + delivery).

 

Luckily I knew someone in the UK who had just bought one and was trying it on his RS3 with big blower.  Mapping went fine and the VIS HPFP upgrade kit did exactly what was needed on his car and coped with 600bhp no sweat.  That was enough for me to pull the trigger.

 

Just in case you didn’t know what the HPFP looks like, you’ll probably notice this when you open your bonnet again!

 

 

Here is the pump with the new piston and sleeve fitted (not that you can really make out any difference), ready to fit to my car.

 

 

 

So that will be the fuelling side sorted.

 

Spark Plugs

Hardly exciting but another much needed item for the next stage…. NGK R plugs.

 

These ones are the 7438-8’s.  The last 8 being the heat rating and running one step cooler than the stock OEM plugs which are 7’s.

 

 

They look quite different as well in respect of the tips.

 

 

I understand these don’t need gapping…. Just bang them straight in.

 

I bought these from Opieoils at £30 a pop (you can get 10% normally by using anyone of their 10% off codes banging around).

That’s it for now, but should have some further parts arriving later this week.

[rocketer]

Have same sort of plugs on my Busa with tin tip and engine feels and sounds smoother probably the same here for you. In mc world they are called Irridium plugs and compared to ordinary cheap plugs they are much better.

 

There is another HPFP model Autotech-10-127-101K which should produce 10 bar higher fuel pressure than OEM, quite expensive approx 480£ here but goes under replacement for oem part, haven`t any value at this level you are .

 

How much did your hpfp cost and how much fuel pressure does it make compared in numbers to oem?

Edited by rocketer, 25 April 2017 - 07:34 AM.

[Shaunee]

The VIS stage 1 upgrade, which is what I've bought, is reputed to produce +10bar over stock. It's enough to supply adequate fuelling for up to 700bhp on the 8V stock injectors.

This upgrade kit is currently 300 Euros plus postage.

They do a completely new pump for 750+bhp, but I'm not sure of the cost. I may need to swap out for that in the future.

[RS3ER]

• Live Tuning of every aspect of the engine’s calibration, including signals sent to the DSG
• Full Direct Injection and Pump Control
• 8 Injector Support with 4 Port Injectors
• Ability to select desired engine map, boost level, traction and launch control levels through steering wheel buttons
• Fully adjustable Launch control with Anti-lag strategies and Ramp in Maps
• Full Variable Valve Timing control
• Flex Fuel control
• Cruise Control
• Fully functional with every other Ecu on the Car
• Closed loop Dual Lambda Control
• Fully adjustable closed loop boost control with launch level adjustments and trims for turbo speed, air charge, engine coolant temp, exhaust gas temperatures[/size] etc
• Monitor and trimming of exhaust gas temperatures
• Flat Shift
• Built in data logging using a market leading analysis software of up to 8 hours, with data rates at up to 1000hz
• Rolling Antilag / Pit lane limiter strategies, great for building boost on a roll
• Antitheft and valet modes
• Super fast connection via RJ45 Ethernet port for live tuning anywhere in the world or even remotely if on track if connected to a wireless unit.
• Adjustable traction control strategies based on lateral g and  individual wheel speed monitoring.
• 4 programmable target slip maps. An immediate torque reduction can be applied by the ECU via ignition retard or a fuel cut.
• Configurable Engine Safety Trips on all important parameters like oil temperature, oil pressure.
• Fuel pump control of both main, and sub pumps, as well as Relative fuel pressure monitoring and limiting in the event of fuel pressure dropping on boost.
• 4 different Pedal to Throttle Angle maps with multipliers for different parameters e.g. speed. Again adjustable via steering wheel buttons
• Configurable individual cylinder closed loop knock control, to suit any cylinder modification with adjustments to frequency, windows for listening and gains for each cylinder. Ability to trigger full cylinder shutdown in severe knock conditions.
• Change torque reduction levels on shifts. Essential for very high power applications where the maximum reduction available via the stock ECU is not enough to prevent damage to components
• Ability to change Torque ramp in after launch
• Change throttle blip requests to match your torque band. Especially useful on oversized turbo installations.
• Run up to 7bar map sensors
• Control high or low impendence injectors
• Control up to 4 additional injectors for high power installations where staged injection may be required
• Change injector dead times based on voltage levels for proper control
• Change injector end angle to ensure injection point is properly calibrated
• Ability to fit any type of external sensor to monitor and trigger safety trips from anything from crank case pressure to damper position
• Ability to use any size DBW throttle body e.g. Chevrolet LS7
• Wet and Dry – Wet and Dry nitrous control with ability to drive solenoids directly and control n20 heaters via pressure monitoring
• Ability to control any external vehicle features based on sensor inputs e.g. Adjustable rear wing linked to G force or exhaust control valves
• Connect any race series dash or even one of our partners’ Touchscreen CANBUS adjustment /display units
• View any input live with built in scope up to 1000hz

The Setup & new modifications you have planned for the next part of the build sound Brilliant good luck with this unique project.

[Shaunee]

And another box arrives……

 

 

A P3 air vent gauge.

 

Being honest I’ve never really liked digital gauges as I’ve always preferred analogue for things like boost.  It’s easier to read in analogue in my opinion, however, since these gauges are mega neat on their installation and convenient to use, I got a bit wallet happy and bought one.

 

It wasn’t until I had pulled the trigger and bought this gauge, did I then realise I can gain access to much more information and functionality via a bluetooth connection between Syvecs and my iPhone. lol  Oh well….. This might be up for sale soon then!

 

If I intend on keeping this gauge I do need to buy the additional analogue boost module, which enables boost to be read from the vacuum system off the engine.  The reason for this and my requirement of this, is whilst the gauge out of the box plugs into the ODB port and reads ODB ECU boost, this generic ODB boost reading is capped to 1.55bar…. I’ll be running more boost than that, so will need the additional module.  

 

I hear that P3 are looking to extend the PID’s accessed via ODB, which may allow the gauge to read the proper internal Audi PID’s…. This would mean correct and full boost reading past 1.55bar.

 

So what’s this thing do?  A lot more than just boost display:

 

Boost: This mode will show vacuum and boost. Depending on settings in the config menu this may be from ECU data or an external analog sensor. Boost is read in PSI by default and Vacuum is inHg. If you configure the gauge to metric boost/vacuum will be in BAR.

 

Coolant: Coolant temp. Unlike the needle on your dash, this will show you exactly the temp that your engine is currently running at, and is configurable between Celsius & Fahrenheit.

 

Air: Air intake temperature. This is the reading of the temperature of the air entering the engine, and is configurable between Celsius & Fahrenheit. On most vehicles, this reading is taken from the T-MAP sensor on the charge pipe, before the throttle.

 

IGNTN: Ignition timing. This mode will show you the spark timing of your engine in real-time.

 

EGT: Exhaust Gas Temperature. This is the temp of the exhaust gas as calculated by your ECU. (canbus vehicles only)

 

Throttle: Actual throttle plate position. Use this mode to see how your car changes the actual drive by wire throttle blade in relation to what your foot tells it to do.

 

rp-Shift: RPM readout. It can be handy to use this mode to see an exact RPM or to record/playback and see your shifts.

 

Speed: Actual road speed direct from VSS. This is the actual road speed value of the car, uncorrected. This is the raw value; therefore it may not match your cluster which tends to read high in many cars. This value is taken from the left rear wheel on most vehicles.

 

0-60: Performance Timer, 0-60 timer with auto start / stop.

 

Batt: Battery Voltage. This is the voltage of your cars power system, anything between 13-14.5 volts while running is normal.

 

Code Reading: Read and Clear diagnostic codes, this happens automatically at startup. On K-Line vehicles this is disabled by default because it delays startup.

 

Peak Recall: The gauge offers peak recall of the PEAK VALUE on the selected mode, since the last recall, or since the vehicle was started. In addition to this, for 2008+ model year cars the gauge also stores peaks for EGT, Air, Coolant in the background, so that you can switch to that mode later, after a lap for example, and recall your peak temperatures.

 

Record/Playback: The 15 seconds record/playback feature is available on canbus vehicles only, and provides a way for you to see 15 seconds of historical data from the current mode. Recording is started when the peak recall button is pressed. Simply tap peak recall, do some acceleration, and then after you are able to look at the gauge again, hold the peak recall button and the gauge will show you the first 15 seconds of data from that mode, as well as RPM scaled onto the bargraph readout.

 

For something that fits very neatly into the oem vent, it provides a lot of functionality.

The gauge is approximately £315 from p3cars.com.

[micloi]

Any updates?!