[Roy]

Many thanks mate

[monopole]

...this is a little follow on from our day at Santa Pod Raceway today. What started out as a wet day, causing a delay to the 1st run times, around half 10, then led to a fairly busy day there which remained dry, but chilly and overcast.

Before I post my slip for today, which consisted of 2 stock runs and 1 with the MTM M-Cantronic, I want to reflect back a few weeks from the SRR morning at the end of August.

From the visit there (okay, lets say the results "may" have been a little high) but that's not quite the point I want to make, the point I do want to make is from that visit, the stock runs put Wayne highest (caveat decat), followed by myself and then Brian (I'm only including the people who also ran at SP today), and coincidentally, the fastest stock runs today were Wayne, me then Brian (I'm sure they'll post their slips on the pod thread or somewhere at some point)

What is odd, at QST, their Dyno put my car substantially less powerful than Brians (highest delta was nearly 30hp less) with the suspicion my engine had "issues". Infact my MTM result at QST was still LESS then Brians stock run!

So, as a practical conclusion from the positions and times today, I can say without a shadow of a doubt, my stock car is PERFECTLY healthy.
What is utter disappointing for me today, is the MTM run made pretty much the EXACT same time as stock (this was within 0.06 seconds and 0.4 mph)




So, my car/engine is;

"massively under powered"
"has a problem"
???

or

the MTM M-Cantronic does nothing (read, not work) on my car
???

Maybe I'm no expert, but I'm sure the figures don't lie..




run 1, was ESC in "sport"
run 2 and 3 was ESC "OFF"

12.2's for an off the forecourt family hatch, bring on the lollerskates..

Edited by monopole, 17 September 2016 - 09:37 PM.

[monopole]

There was a custom S8 there, circa 650 hp that ran 11.5, "only" 0.6 seconds quicker than Waynes car... makes ya think...

[Chungster]

Here's a vid of the S8. As its local to me I'm gonna give it some respect as its no slouch.

https://youtu.be/nCLiOPK6uf8


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[Eigdoog]

Very good report here!

 

This does make you wonder 

 

Whats the saying again? Better stock. 

[monopole]

<<<

 

[monopole]

Here's a vid of the S8. As its local to me I'm gonna give it some respect as its no slouch.

https://youtu.be/nCLiOPK6uf8


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Absolutely, I wasn't putting the S8 down any, immense run, I was bigging the A3... errr I mean RS3, up

[Fivepotfan]

The best part of the day for me was when the guys running heavily modded Subaru's and Focus RS's enquired as to what mods we had on our cars to be running low 12's.

The look of disbelief (and some expletives) when I told them that with the exception of Shauns car, they were otherwise pretty much stock.

 

Absolutely Priceless!

 

Great day guys, I really enjoyed it. We must do it again some time. Will post up my time slip tomorrow (Sunday).

Edited by Fivepotfan, 17 September 2016 - 10:16 PM.

[Shaunee]

Your terminal speeds between the second run (stock) and the third run (tuned) indicates that tuned, you have negligible extra power tuned at the topend of your rev range.

 

Your stock run terminal speed run also tells me that your car as stock, has absolutely nothing wrong with it through the rev range used for a drag run.  It matches my terminals as I ran as stock at Santa Pod a few months back.

 

Have you got a Pano roof on yours mate... I forgot to look?

[monopole]

aye, Pano Shaun.

[monopole]

Your terminal speeds between the second run (stock) and the third run (tuned) indicates that tuned, you have negligible extra power tuned at the topend of your rev range.

 

Your stock run terminal speed run also tells me that your car as stock, has absolutely nothing wrong with it through the rev range used for a drag run.  It matches my terminals as I ran as stock at Santa Pod a few months back.

 

Have you got a Pano roof on yours mate... I forgot to look?

 

Which sorta corresponds to the dyno run at SRR (again don't take in the actual reported figures but look at the plot), which showed initial improvement over stock for the MTM box, but a complete cross over by the end; in essence I can feel when the box is fitted, it just doesn't appear to be giving me anything "real" when translated to the tarmac;

 

[monopole]

personally, I think whatever initial gains I get from the box is quickly being reigned back in by the ecu, effectively irons the box out and maybe even takes something from me top end (not that I'll ever really find out on the A27 LOL!). Perhaps the RS3 ecu is just too powerful for the box to compete with?

[Shaunee]

aye, Pano Shaun.

 

Weight does play a part in the acceleration times as well.  The Pano's I suspect (if it's anything like the Pano weight on the A45 AMG), is not unsubstantial.

 

Basically you and I (assuming you have the SS seats and B&O sound system) are pretty much full fat spec!

[Shaunee]

Your terminals between stock and tuned do not insinuate that you've lost any power at the top end tbh...... though is also insinuates that you haven't gained any either.

 

Like I said yesterday.... tuning boxes at this level tend to be about the mid-range increases.  You don't really see the midrange on a quarter run, apart from first gear.  The other gears are all top end revs.

 

You see mid range on the road in-gear.

[monopole]

Yep Shaun, I got all the heavy stuff 😁

[monopole]

You see mid range on the road in-gear.

Yep, but as Kim had said, I'm not really getting much of this anyway, according to his dyno, because of my poor performing engine.

[Fivepotfan]

Steve, whats the plan for the full health check now? You gonna bother spending the cash or are you happy that everything seem to be 'as it should be' for a standard spec engine?

[Fivepotfan]

Here's the timing slip for my runs at Santa Pod yesterday. The first run was without launch control, I wish I could say it was intentional but unfortunately it wasn't - I just didn't have it engaged properly before the lights went green! Dooooh..!

 

However, I got it sorted for the next two runs which were nice and consistent - reaction times were pretty good too!

 

So.... a quarter mile time of 12.3 secs for a stock RS3 with just 3K miles is not bad at all.

 

My terminal speed was slightly lower than the other cars, maybe because I have less miles on my car (3K versus 8K on the others), or possibly because my car has the extra weight of sunroof/roof rails and a chubby driver to haul down the road  . Whatever it was, I had the last laugh because I didn't have to wear the crash helmet (mandatory for speeds above 110mph)..hah hah hah.

 

Great day out guys - must do it again!

 

[monopole]

Tell the dit about the heavily modded car behind you gutted his time when you told him yours even when you messed up 😁


I've still got the car booked in for the health check in October.. but what I am to do about it... we'll see... as from a real world perspective I'm now confident of the condition of the engine an it's so called stock performance!

Edited by monopole, 18 September 2016 - 12:09 PM.

[Fivepotfan]

Weight does play a part in the acceleration times as well.  The Pano's I suspect (if it's anything like the Pano weight on the A45 AMG), is not unsubstantial.

 

Basically you and I (assuming you have the SS seats and B&O sound system) are pretty much full fat spec!

 

How much fuel did you guys have in the tank when you ran? Just realised that I had 3/4 of a tankfull - wont make that mistake again!