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The all black car with black optics looks superb. Sepang blue also looks like it'll be a good colour. I had the red for a few months before changing to the black. It is an interesting colour, as it becomes more orange in bright light.

BTW Stefan the designer, at Audi City launch, said 20" alloys would be offered. They'll look great, but won't do much for the ride.

 

Unfortunately in this moment in Switzerland, the only market where the new RS3 could be already ordered, Audi offers just three colors  of the new rotor 19" alloy as I've been told by a dealer. Carboceramic brakes and carbon fiber bucket seats aren't available too.


Edited by Garby81, 21 March 2015 - 03:49 PM.


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The poor Swiss..!

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But we should be getting them right?

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UK will get every option, we love the options. Swiss too busy tucking money away for us lot to worry about options

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Hahahah quality!

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Guys,

No market has had final specifications released yet. Not sure if Swiss specs in Italian quoted above are legit. You can definitely order a new RS3 now, you just need to drop a £1K deposit with a dealer. Website configurator should be up by the end of the month. This isn't a failure by Audi but what they said all along.

On a related note, I keep hearing a rumour that there will be a further Audi A3 model that sits above the RS3. We know a Golf R400 is coming in September. It will have 400-420 bhp in a lightened body (1420 kg instead of 1800 kg) and will crack 0-60 mph in 3.9 seconds and, unlimited, the top speed is 190 mph. The engine is a highly tuned version of the standard inline 2.0-litre four engine in the S3, Golf GTI and Golf R. it sounds just as growly as the RS3's inline five. Audi showed it in the TT ClubSport Concept at Geneva last year. With 400+ bhp such a vehicle would obviously sit above RS3.



I will get a car with this engine over a new RS3.


Do you read stuff online and believe everything? R400 in sept lol

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A Golf with a 400 bho EA888 inline four is definitely coming. It may not arrive in September, but should be announced around the time Mercedes releases its upgrade AMG A45, which is later this year. How do I know? I wrote to Quattro GMbH when the Audi TT Quattro R420 concept was shown at Geneva in March 2014 and asked what the plans were for this engine and whether it would appear in the RS3. I was told that the RS3 would get the five, as before, but that there would definitely be either a VW or Audi model with the R400 engine. This was later confirmed in an interview with the head of Quattro GmbH in Car Magazine with George Kacher. That interview said that Audi had poached the AMG guy who developed the A45's engine.

Obviously, any new VW or Audi that has 400 or 420 bhp will sit above the RS3. Don't get me wrong, I like the 2.5-litre five very much. It is a hugely charismatic and powerful engine. No question. But it is very heavy, very thirsty and contributes to understeer and excessive tyre wear. The EA888 in the Audi S3 and Golf R is an exceptionally sweet engine and quite a bit lighter. It is probably the best engineered 2.0-litre petrol engine you can get this side of the A45's unit. Obviously it's down on horsepower so less attractive to hardcore enthusiasts.

If Audi persists with the five, they will have to make it cleaner, lighter and more economical. As turbocharging technology reaches its limits, we seem to be seeng 2.0-litre fours and 3.0-litre sixes as benchmark capacities with upper power limits of 400 bhp and 600 bhp respectively. The issue is ensuring the integrity of the engine block when turbos exert so much pressure. It means that a five needs to be as heavy as a six to cope with forces placed upon it. That means a car with more weight over the front wheels. 

The other new technology is electric turbocharging where electric power is used to rapidly spool-up the turbo before engine boost kicks-in. This does much to reduce turbo lag. It is already being developed for fours and sixes, but may make a five redundant.

I am very interested to see what the revised Porsche 911 is like come September when the range goes entirely turbo with a new 2.9-litre flat six. This is expected to have electric turbocharging. (Anybody who currently owns an RS3 should consider a base 911, if practicality isn't an issue. The relative costs are not that different when depreciation is factored in).

On the other hand, a Golf or Audi with 400 bhp in a 2.0-litre car would be spectacular - the base 911 only has 350 bhp. While Audi, Volkswagen and Porsche plan their ranges neither Mercedes nor BMW will be sitting around idly. This is a nuclear arms race in the compact category!


Edited by Tailpipe, 22 March 2015 - 08:17 PM.


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The 5 cylinder is a cracking engine, it must be doing something right if it's won engine of the year 3 times running.

It ain't all about Horsepower.........

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hmmm - engine of the year in the 2.5l category?  Lots of competition there now that Volvo and Ford have pulled out.  Audi vs Audi???



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I heard from an insider that the A45 AMG uses a Hyundia motor

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hmmm - engine of the year in the 2.5l category? Lots of competition there now that Volvo and Ford have pulled out. Audi vs Audi???

Why don't you see if Audi will take out the 2.5 and put in the 2.0 When you place your order. ?

This is the RS3 forum is it not ?
If you like the 2.0l engine so much maybe you're on the wrong forum ?



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Edited by veneeringman, 22 March 2015 - 02:12 PM.


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I really like the 2.5, just having a go at the pointless engine of the year awards - there is about one category for every engine out there!



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Ok there was some competition in the 2.0 to 2.5 group:  Shocking how some really mundane engines came so close!

 

Audi 2.5-litre five-cylinder turbo
(Audi RS Q3 (310ps))

357 Mazda 2.2-litre Skyactiv diesel
(Mazda 3 / Axela (150ps), 6 / Atenza, CX-5 (150ps, 175ps)) 340 Mercedes-Benz 2.1-litre CDI
(Mercedes-Benz A200, E200, GLA200, GLK200 (136ps), A220, CLA220, B220, C220, E220, GLA220, GLK220 (170ps), C250, E250, CLS250, SLK250, GLK250, ML250 (204ps), Infiniti Q50 (170ps)) 221 Mazda 2.5-litre Skyactiv gasoline
(Mazda 6 / Atenza (192ps), CX-5 (192ps)) 178 Ford / PSA Peugeot Citroen / Jaguar Land Rover 2.2-litre diesel
(Jaguar XF (163ps, 200ps), Land Rover Freelander2 (150ps, 190ps), Range Rover Evoque (150ps, 190ps), Peugeot 508 (204ps) Ford S-Max (200ps), Citroen C5 (204ps)) 136 Mercedes-Benz 2.1-litre electric-diesel hybrid
(Mercedes-Benz E300 Hybrid (231ps), S300 Hybrid (204ps)) 133

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Waiting for new RS3 is like being on death row waiting waiting waiting then one day you get a big shock when it happens

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So maybe the 23rd becomes the 30th?! Rapidly running out of March!!


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Just received via Email the PDF brochure, what no Ceramics or Carbon Pack?



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Guys,

 

Theres a pricing brochure that has just been released like 10 mins ago. Speak to Chloe at MK, she is sending it over now....

 

Wahey !!!!!



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Please post here for those us that are not in the UK. Thanks much :)


Edited by Ved, 23 March 2015 - 10:55 AM.


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As requested....

 

Attached File  RS3 Sportback price 20.03.2015.pdf   5.98MB   167 downloads

 

Disappointing about the following;

 

  • Geneva show car had carbon ceramic brakes but none on the list
  • Carbon fibre interior inlays on the Geneva car but seemingly only silver and black available
  • The red accents in the vents is the only colour they will do in the RS3 Design Pack which is a £900 option for seatbelts, door armrests, keen pads, vents and mats.
  • There is no detail / pictures on what the different is between Sports Seat and Super Sports Seat is
  • Sat nav. IS NOT standard?!
  • Colour choice is poor with only 1 NCO in Nardo
  • No exterior carbon pack like on the RS6 and RS7? Aren't RS3 owners worthy?

 

This car better drive well for the money.

 

Positive points are the standard LED lights, park assist plus, rain and light pack, interior storage / luggage pack which in fairness the last two were cost options on the 8P but Park assist plus is standard on most V.A.G. cars and other marques so about time really.


Edited by P_G, 23 March 2015 - 11:39 AM.


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No mention about carboceramic brakes, carbon fiber bucket seats and 20" alloys...






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