[MacD]

Brilliant news, dead chuffed for ya!!!!!

[FletchRS3]

Wow what a great result Fletch, well done!!!!Up yours Audi uk

Exactly mate..!! I am going to take it to Audi newcastle tomorrow and tell them what a bunch of useless c--ts they all are..!!

[Viraje]

Glad you got the result you did in the end. And glad I was way out with my estimate too!

 

I'm curious of one thing though.... Are you more confident in the repair work from the garage than if Audi had done the work?

[FletchRS3]

Yes Virage definitely more confident because when i took it to Audi they all stood there scratching there heads saying ive never seen anything like this before but when i took it to the garage i used they had a look and were laughing as they knew everything Audi had said to me and basically told me they were talking bollocks and talked me through it all and told me what they were going to do and seemed very confident in what they were saying when as i say the 5 lads at Audi looked puzzled when they seen it and wanted to replace everything when there was no need at all.

The fuel tank had a very minor mark on it, the diff did not need replaced it took them 20 mins to get the snapped bolts out while i was standing there watching.

They let me stand there and watch them remove everything and I watched them put it all back together again, i was more than happy

[Viraje]

Good stuff. Having confidence in the car is a big deal, and this could have ruined the it for you.

[Klauster]

Fletch - I am delighted to read the news, some good news and your car is back to life

We have to remember Audi technicians are not mechanics (well most of em)

Anyway, enjoy the car again

[Jmcnamee98]

Exactly mate..!! I am going to take it to Audi newcastle tomorrow and tell them what a bunch of useless c--ts they all are..!!

Glad to hear your sorted Fletch. There should be a free service from Audi in that for all the unnecessary work they tried to charge you for if you will still let them touch the car!

[P_G]

Great news Fletch. I wouldn't bother taking it to Audi thought because it won't change anything and may not get you anywhere, they still have to follow the instructions they get from Audi UK / GmbH and it is always replace rather then repair. Hence why they are technicians and not mechanics.

 

Had the same with my RS4, never batted an eyelid when it went in a couple of months later for a regular service after they had quoted me £3k for a new manifold it never needed. 

[Kelza]

Nice one fletch so glad you got sorted and your baby back on the road

[Viraje]

More images of the carnage....
 

[Kelza]

Wow what a mess no launch for me !

[Boej007]

Just read this roller coaster ride post from start to finish. Extremely pleased for you Fletch  looks like you got the best possible outcome of a shitty situation. Really puts in perspective of how easily some of us could get done over by the supposed Audi "specialists" we are supposed to trust. I myself have had no problems with my dealer and my warranty has been a saving grace. Having said that it will be Independent all the way when my warranty expires in January should i ever encounter a problem "touch wood" it wont be the case. 

 

Yet again this forum opens your eyes and keeps you on the right path while owning an RS3, Cheers.

[ColinC2]

Like previous poster I have just read this thread from start to finish. Could not be more pleased for OP that the solution was not a bank breaker and good to know that there are still "engineers" out there rather than " Follow what the Audi instructions say without really understanding - bit like me and IKEA furniture" 

 

And when I eventually get my RS3 (as I am sure I will) I will not be launching it even with an Audi warranty   

[Roy]

Colin,

 

they are mostly safe to launch unless the car has been remapped,,,, like quite a few on here,,,, then launching is not recommended !

[RS3_Will]

Like previous poster I have just read this thread from start to finish. Could not be more pleased for OP that the solution was not a bank breaker and good to know that there are still "engineers" out there rather than " Follow what the Audi instructions say without really understanding - bit like me and IKEA furniture" 

 

And when I eventually get my RS3 (as I am sure I will) I will not be launching it even with an Audi warranty   

 

 

Colin,

 

they are mostly safe to launch unless the car has been remapped,,,, like quite a few on here,,,, then launching is not recommended !

 

 

Trust me Colin, when you hear the revs being held on launch control, you will get weak at the knees and will want to take your foot off that brake pedal!

 

My car ran out of warranty 2/3 days ago so the new springs are going on this weekend and now just doing my application to be an APR dealer so roll on the mods for the demo car

[Mr Anderson]

Just caught this thread recently during finally having some free time.

 

Great to see that although Audi did not cover on warranty, you at least did not have to shell out a kings ransom to get back up and running. Just shows the throw away and replace mentality by the dealers these days.

 

As I work in manufacturing and we deal with bolted joints, I thought I'd share a few thoughts on the discussion in the middle of the thread about how much car is used etc. and whether this could affect likelihood of happening.

 

The frequency of use, warm up or not etc. should not affect whether the bolts fail or not. This is a bolted joint and will have been designed and hardware specified to a set of design parameters to meet a specific required clamp load in the joint. The factor of safety that is built into the design parameters should cover any eventuality and should normally cover a reasonable torque increase as the aim is to avoid warranty. The normal logic is that it's cheaper to shell out a few more pence on bolts during manufacture rather than thousands on a warranty claim.

 

The bolts will be failing for one of three probable reasons:

 

• bad quality bolts - often the case that manufacturers don't pay attention to quality of low value parts as their focus is on high value parts. The reality is that low value parts such as bolts are holding everything together!
• process problem - badly executed torqueing operation in the factory through faulty equipment, training or something similar
• badly designed/specified joint - somebody got the calcs wrong when they designed the joint

Unfortunately we will never find out what the true root cause is as a manufacturer won't want to share, instead they will use any reason they can to avoid the warranty claim as Fletch has found out.

 

In summary they will avoid warranty wherever they can, and we are all at the same risk when we press those buttons, briefly listen to that glorious sound of the engine on the limiter and release that brake pedal!

 

Trouble is it's too addictive.... I'm still in warranty and at standard spec so what the hell................

[TootRS]

Just to pick up on one or two points mentioned throughout the thread that may be of use.

 

The TT RS received an updated prop shaft in October 2012, I think that might have been after RS3 manufacturing ceased, but the fact they had to revise the prop, and also the software update that was released to try and mitigate this, show that even on standard cars the hardware is not up to the job. I think it's just pot luck really, I carried out well over 200 launches in my TT RS when it was remapped and I never had an issue, then again we have seen failures on standard cars that have only been a few months old.

 

On the warranty front, software changes aren't detectable at dealership or Audi UK level with the MED9 ECU that's in the RS3/TT RS, but if data is sent to the factory they can definitely see it, and remotely as well. I believe the ECU logs parameters over its lifetime relating to performance, clearing or resetting won't help either as there would be chronological inconsistencies. Having exhausts or other visible mods will always make dealerships suspicious of ECU mapping as well.

 

I'm not saying don't do it guys, just be aware of the facts and be prepared to dig deep if something does happen and they won't cover it. I'm pleased the OP got this resolved for relatively minimal pain all things considered, and even more pleased Audi didn't see a penny of it.

[FletchRS3]

Gents

I have been off the forum for a good few months now i hope you are all well.

I am wanting to go stage 2 APR and after the problems with the stadard prop i was wondering if anybody knows where i can get an uprated prop shaft from because i am not keen to do it unless i can uprate the prop

Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated

[Pat]

Gents
I have been off the forum for a good few months now i hope you are all well.
I am wanting to go stage 2 APR and after the problems with the stadard prop i was wondering if anybody knows where i can get an uprated prop shaft from because i am not keen to do it unless i can uprate the prop
Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated

The uprated prop is direct from Audi I think I'm having one as part of my build....Ive emailed guy at my tuners that has researched it and I'll get back to you with details
As I've said on other post the prop part number was changed in Sept 2013 and I'm led to believe the torque limit nearly doubled on the new one but that's what I'm awaiting confirmation on
Oh and about a grand to buy

[Vito]

I must be missing something here  ........Why is a uprated prop needed when the problem we know is with the bolts?