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2.9 V6 450ps set to show itself at Frankfurt motor show


Hmm, so no power advantage over the current model?

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Hmm, so no power advantage over the current model?


There was a leaked image which I can't find now but that had the new rs5 showing the above power so rs4 will be same

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There was a leaked image which I can't find now but that had the new rs5 showing the above power so rs4 will be same


Most of the N/A RS4's rarely make the quoted figures anyway because of carbon build up.

Power delivery will be a lot different on the new RS4 anyway.

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Most of the N/A RS4's rarely make the quoted figures anyway because of carbon build up.

Power delivery will be a lot different on the new RS4 anyway.


I attended a rolling road day about 2 years ago, a friend brought his RS4 (14 plate) and it ran 399bhp. He was not happy to say the least!

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Hmm, so no power advantage over the current model?

Expect the new one to be lighter and have a shed load more torque - the previous model only had 317lbs/ft so for the new one with turbos I would expect somewhere over 400lbs/ft straight off the bat.

Have to say that the V8 was a glorious thing to drive, especially when it revved right up to 8250rpm!


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The B7 RS4 is notorious for the carbon build up causing low figures of 370-390ps instead of the full 420ps. Lower figures than that were generally caused by vaccum issues. The B8 version suffers a lot less than the B7 in this area. Never heard of one as low as 399 due to carbon though, I suspect that car had other issues.

I expect the B9 to be significantly quicker than the B7/B8 as stated above due to weight savings and the forced induction torque.

And for the first time since the B5, it will be easy to tune and get big power increases without having to spend 15k on a supercharger.


Edited by MikeFish, 26 February 2017 - 04:42 PM.


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I would be very surprised if the new engine only produces 450PS, bearing in mind the 5-cylinder gives 400PS.

I would think more like 500PS to keep up with the Jones' (aka BMW and Merc).

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I would be very surprised if the new engine only produces 450PS, bearing in mind the 5-cylinder gives 400PS.

I would think more like 500PS to keep up with the Jones' (aka BMW and Merc).


And Alfa too!

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I was going to say they will keep it under the RS6 figures so not to upset the big boys but with this year being the last for the current 6 perhaps that won't matter and we'll see a higher powered 6 anyway.

450 with the turbos will probably be enough to be seeing 60 in around 4.2 considering the Panamera is doing it in 3.8 with this new rumoured engine at 550bhp though.

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I think it will be around the 3.9 mark. It needs to compete with the Alfa and has to be faster than the RS3. And it can be as fast as the outgoing RS6 as that will likely be 5 years old by the time we get an RS4, although Audi can still claim the RS6 Performance version is faster at 3.7.



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You driven the Alfa Mike? Had some great reviews tbf.

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I keep having a little look to see if any dealers have any in stock close by but none so far. I'd like to just see one in the flesh first of all.
I had a 156gta (saloon) for many years and have been waiting so long for them to bring out a new version and it is finally here and as you said it has been getting good reviews too so I can see myself with one of these at some point.

Edited by MikeFish, 27 February 2017 - 11:21 PM.


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I saw one at the Italian car dealership which was formerly Nick Whale Motors in Bentley Heath near Solihull - looks very tempting



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Some info on the likely engine spec for the RS4/RS5. Also the release dates of when they may appear - looks like we will be waiting a while yet :wacko:

The engine is a shared unit from the VW Group - apparently its used in the latest Porsche Panamera 4S (if the info is correct) and is predicted to produce 450ps & 446lbs/ft (similar to my tweaked RS3 :D )

http://www.autoguide...nt-and-rs5.html


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Heavier though FPF ;)

 

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As I said earlier 450ps ;)

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I think it will be around the 3.9 mark. It needs to compete with the Alfa and has to be faster than the RS3. And it can be as fast as the outgoing RS6 as that will likely be 5 years old by the time we get an RS4, although Audi can still claim the RS6 Performance version is faster at 3.7.


New RS5 does 0-62 in 3.9 secs. Told ya so.

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New RS5 does 0-62 in 3.9 secs. Told ya so.


Oh well, at least what I have now is as fast and yours is quicker Mike!


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If only it was going to look like this mock up Attached File  IMG_1332.JPG   71.88K   3 downloads

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