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Im more than happy with APR to be honest,

yes they said they were going to do the switchable thing and whilst there were a few of us on the forum that might have wanted it done

would the owners of the rest of the cars in the UK, they might not even know about a remap or stage 3 with allsorts of turbo's !

If you or I was APR would I/we invest in something that would not make us any money,,, probably not and as the Mk1 was a limited run.

My car was transformed when it was done and I've never looked back.... just my tuppence

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They shouldn't imply that it's coming then, because in truth it was never gonna happen.

I can't stand these companies that say one thing then do something completely different.

Fine when they want your money / car but surprisingly enough once they've got what they want you never hear from them.





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So I came across the webpage below and discovered that the TTRS has program switching as an option in the states.
http://www.goapr.com...5tfsi_ttrs.html
Scroll to the bottom of the page.

Can anyone from APR explain why we still don't have this option over here for the 3?

Ps, also this advert from Redline, which is dated October 2013
http://www.redlinesp...ine-speed-worx/

 

 

Its based a lot on the type and version of the ECU in the car; for example some of the earlier TTRS cars have program switching (think circa 2010/2011) however we have yet to come across an RS3 that has the same ECU and version.

Truth is, APR in the US are working as best as they can to get program switching and APR Mobile done for as many of the cars as they can but they are currently focused more on getting the later model car software out.

Ill ask the question again though :)

 

 

Thanks Wayne.
This is one point where APR fall down and lose customer support.
They promised this way back when, but now there's a new market they forget their promises.

 

 

It'll never happen.508.gif

I posted this nearly a year ago :rolleyes: 



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Point well made Sean



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Once again I like your comment Roy

I have only had my car APR map a couple of weeks but its transformed my acceleration and love it.



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Im more than happy with APR to be honest,

 

yes they said they were going to do the switchable thing and whilst there were a few of us on the forum that might have wanted it done

 

would the owners of the rest of the cars in the UK,  they might not even know about a remap or stage 3 with allsorts of turbo's !

 

If you or I was APR would I/we invest in something that would not make us any money,,, probably not and as the Mk1 was a limited run.

 

My car was transformed when it was done and I've never looked back.... just my tuppence

 

(Wayne you owe me a drink now mush )

 

Roy I said I was happy with the performance what I am not happy with is the misinformation. Sean has hit the nail on the head they shouldn't have said it was coming.

 

I've proved with the help and much of Awesome's time thanks Mark Ash that you need an intercooler to hit their quoted Stage II figures. This seemingly isn't required for the TTRS as it has a better air intake. 

 

You wont disappoint people if you don't promise them things that don't arrive.



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Roy I said I was happy with the performance what I am not happy with is the misinformation. Sean has hit the nail on the head they shouldn't have said it was coming.
 
I've proved with the help and much of Awesome's time thanks Mark Ash that you need an intercooler to hit their quoted Stage II figures. This seemingly isn't required for the TTRS as it has a better air intake. 
 
You wont disappoint people if you don't promise them things that don't arrive.



There is thread after thread of cars not making the quoted figures and it was an extremley hot topic at one time , I was with Mr Freeze when he gave the head of APR a ear bashing at GTI inters 2014 on the very subject of promised programme switching which ended up with him getting the free wing stickers.The long and the short of it is that they advertised a product in the UK which people have bought and part of the product is missing .

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It's like selling a hot dog without mustard


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Edited by T-800, 30 September 2015 - 07:50 PM.


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It's like buying a hot dog from a hot dog stand that has loads of stickers on it saying "tastes better with mustard" and then when you buy it and ask for the mustard they say " oh sorry we don't have any now jog on I have more hot dogs to sell and you're in the way"

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β€œLightning" 2012 RS3, Ibis White (Sold).  β€œBumblebee” 2018 S1 Competition, Vegas Yellow (Sold).  2020 TTRS mk3 Sport Edition (Sold).


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It'll never happen.508.gif


I swear I just saw a nip!

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Why have most people opted for APR and Revo don't appear to be used much
Only asking as I believe my build will be Revo based with a switching box (of course a lot will be tailor made on the road and dyno)

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I swear I just saw a nip!

I've watched it at least 100 times and not seen one yet ,I'll have to keep watching itπŸ‘€

Edited by Uncle Fester, 30 September 2015 - 08:22 PM.


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Wayne that's not a great response saying there's now no business case for it.

One of the reasons I went for the APR software was I had been lead to believe this feature was coming. I've already stated I'd purchase an APR mobile dongle if program switching became available and I'm sure others would to so its not free or no reward development.

It's unfortunate some of the information from APR has led to expectations not being met or has been untrue such as the map is not detectable when reverted to stock. Whilst I like the performance from the software at the moment if I go Stage III I'll end up replacing the APR software as its only available for the manual TTRS and Garret turbo and not for a hybrid turbo.

For these reasons I wouldn't purchase APR software again.

 

J, I can only apologise on our behalf now. Im not sure if you are aware of the huge transition APR has gone through in the last 12 months, with the business being purchased by Mangrove and a whole new management structure being put in place, people leaving and new staff coming in.

All the way upto March 2014 program switching was very much being worked on, however as part of the takeover every single ongoing project was looked at and evaluated. Im sorry to say this was one such project that wasn't deemed viable.

I cannot comment on Stage 3 from other companies. Yes its a costly, premium kit however its had 30-40 guys working on it since its inception and some of the hardware included is second to none - inconel cast manifold etc. 

 

Im sorry you feel that way about APR, if there is anything I can do in future to bring you back over as a customer please let me know.

 

Im more than happy with APR to be honest,

 

yes they said they were going to do the switchable thing and whilst there were a few of us on the forum that might have wanted it done

 

would the owners of the rest of the cars in the UK,  they might not even know about a remap or stage 3 with allsorts of turbo's !

 

If you or I was APR would I/we invest in something that would not make us any money,,, probably not and as the Mk1 was a limited run.

 

My car was transformed when it was done and I've never looked back.... just my tuppence

 

(Wayne you owe me a drink now mush )

 

Thanks Roy :)

 

They've strung everybody along for years ,not responded to questions asked on here and now finally admitted is not gonna happen as its not "financially viable". I presume it wasn't "financially viable" for them to purchase an 8v to develop the new software thats why the other week they were asking to borrow one for development,unlike another forum sponsor who purchased a car and at least another UK tunining company that i know of.

 

Again, I cant comment for those people who no longer work for APR. As I have mentioned in a previous thread, the vehicles currently at APR HQ in Alabama is an exhaustive list, and as APR UK we are planning our 2016 plans and the 8V RS3 unfortunately doesn't come into those for and internal fleet. The act of 'borrowing' customers/other business' cars is quite common place. We will have 4 2014/2015 Audi RS6' in the building come Friday :)

 

They shouldn't imply that it's coming then, because in truth it was never gonna happen.

I can't stand these companies that say one thing then do something completely different.

Fine when they want your money / car but surprisingly enough once they've got what they want you never hear from them.





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It was going to happen, and as above it had been planned for sometime. Had the takeover not come through and APR shakeup - which so far has been for the better in many many ways - im sure it would still be on the cards. Unfortunately sometimes difficult decisions have to be made.

 

Im not sure what you mean by the last statement, can you clarify? Im not aware currently of any unhappy APR customers that aren't in costant contact with myself or someone at APR  :)

 

 

 

Roy I said I was happy with the performance what I am not happy with is the misinformation. Sean has hit the nail on the head they shouldn't have said it was coming.

 

I've proved with the help and much of Awesome's time thanks Mark Ash that you need an intercooler to hit their quoted Stage II figures. This seemingly isn't required for the TTRS as it has a better air intake. 

 

You wont disappoint people if you don't promise them things that don't arrive.

 

Your last point is a good one J, which is why we are trying to keep as many new developments close to our chest now. in the past, details of products leaked which honestly may never come to fruition. Its the nature of the beast, just take a look at the forums for B8 S4 and Stage 3 supercharger. its been a while but Magnusson are now releasing that kit and APR are offering a tune :)



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It takes a man to apologise !



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Guys just get over it........it ain't happening

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It takes a man to apologise !


But it takes a woman to keep moaning about it

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Hahahahaha

 

Very funny Toby    :D



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But it takes a woman to keep moaning about it


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Edited by Uncle Fester, 01 October 2015 - 08:04 AM.


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It takes a man to apologise !


Well said Roy. 🏻


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Just checked in since last post.... Seems like I've opened a can of worms! Still happy with Apr map... Just got my Apr updated propshaft bolts this Morning too from psi... 9 bolts for 90 quid! Let's hope they work.

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Edited by sawda, 01 October 2015 - 04:05 PM.


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Well done Wayne for facing the onslaught head on and responding even if the news is not what everyone wants, keeping communication I think is very important to keep customers happy so glad you can speak for Apr.

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Edited by sawda, 01 October 2015 - 04:08 PM.





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