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I'm wondering............. Could a set of RSQ3/RS3 8V/RS4 8 pot Calipers be made to fit the 8P RS3 ?




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Things that you might think are the same between the vehicles are not as they seem

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Just spoke with Ed at Aps
He will have an RS3 8V in soon and he said it's something he is going to look at.


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Will that be with the wavy discs?

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No with the standard ones.

I've been looking at the 8 pot calipers

It'd be a nice oem upgrade if it could be made to work.

Ed seems to think the mounting bracket is the key

Another consideration is wether the brake servo are any bigger on the newer models.

There is a supplier online that sells modified mounting brackets.

It's just an idea I'm throwing out there ........



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Edited by T-800, 18 August 2015 - 04:48 PM.


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Well the 8P & 8V both have 370mm x 32mm discs so the calliper is the right size on the 8P disc so only things like disc offset, differences in calliper mounting points, differences in hub between the 2 models and high cost of the 8 pots direct from Audi. Most likely it will end up as expensive as a set of AP 8 pots & discs.

 

Doubt if the servo will make any difference as the pistons in the 8 pot will be smaller than the ones in our 4 pots anyway.

 

Don't get me wrong if someone makes up a mod kit I would be interested if the price is right. 


Edited by Duke3D, 18 August 2015 - 06:44 PM.

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Well the 8P & 8V both have 370mm x 32mm discs so the calliper is the right size on the 8P disc so only things like disc offset, differences in calliper mounting points, differences in hub between the 2 models and high cost of the 8 pots direct from Audi. Most likely it will end up as expensive as a set of AP 8 pots & discs.
 
Doubt if the servo will make any difference as the pistons in the 8 pot will be smaller than the ones in our 4 pots anyway.
 
Don't get me wrong if someone makes up a mod kit I would be interested if the price is right. 


And maybe go with the 20" rims which combined with the look of the brakes are for me the best thing about the RSQ3

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Shaun, your best buddy Dave Bremtechnik has done B7 RS4/R8 Brembo 8 pot caliper conversions with AP discs and Pagid pads on 8P RS3's IIRC, when you next have a beer ask him as they have the mounting brackets as well. I'm looking at this as an option too if I can, just have to decide on whether to do suspension or brakes first as can't afford both.



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I've found a company online that makes mounting brackets for the TT RS
So I've asked them if they could adapt one for the 3 to use the 8 pot caliper


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Edited by T-800, 19 August 2015 - 09:07 AM.


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Some here for the R8 to A3 but for 365mm discs

https://www.bks-tuni...-s3-rs3-8p.html
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Nice find Duke3D


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This guy has just emailed me back

https://www.akmotors...trs-370mm-disc/


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Much better price than the one I found. God it's tempting me now. Some callipers on eBay for £900 +

Hmmmmm shall I cancel the holiday and tell the wife the Car is broken.
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Yes
Brake shield would need to be removed or modified for the bigger caliper too


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The chap I emailed seemed to think the brackets would work, however he said he'd refund if they weren't suitable.



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Just been speaking to MDM Technik.................

 

He advises the 'Standard' 370mm Audi discs aren't up to the job if used with 8 pot Brembos............

 

He used to offer a Loba motorsport and 8 pot caliper upgrade but apparently they stopped because of supply issues......

 

I can get the Calipers and a mounting bracket...... however it looks more likely the OEM discs would have to go

 

I have found a TTRS that has done it with standard discs though.........

 

 

Another car same 8 pot set up here

 

 


Edited by T-800, 19 August 2015 - 05:41 PM.


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So if there are TTRS's and 8P A/S3's running with a 8 pot caliper and OEM discs as pictured above, how does he reckon they don't work?



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I think when (definitely going to do this when money allows) I get around to this I will stick with the standard discs then change them in the future for AP or similar 365mm items.
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I think they are not best suited for track work maybe............

 

The Bracket from BKS is for the fitting of 8 pot Brembos to the RS3 just had an email confirming this and they are £177 + Delivery

 

I cannot see how the 8P discs couldn't handle the 8 pot.......... the 8V has a similar disc to ours just with the fancy wave effect but still same dia..........

 


Edited by T-800, 19 August 2015 - 07:08 PM.


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Shaun, your best buddy Dave Bremtechnik has done B7 RS4/R8 Brembo 8 pot caliper conversions with AP discs and Pagid pads on 8P RS3's IIRC, when you next have a beer ask him as they have the mounting brackets as well. I'm looking at this as an option too if I can, just have to decide on whether to do suspension or brakes first as can't afford both.



I want the rest of my bits off the VAGbrempimpernell first, get in the queue lol 😄

Edited by Pat, 19 August 2015 - 10:30 PM.





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