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Question for those of you that have fitted cat bypass pipes yourselves. Do you definitely need to do this with the car on a post lift or over a pit for the height clearance to be able to remove the old and fit the new pipes?

I hate having to pay garages to do easy jobs but the problem is getting enough access under the car using jacks or wheel ramps alone.
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I done mine with the drivers side jacked up and was fairly easy!
About 45 mins all in.
Excellent mod and sounds gorgeous

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Thanks Marshy, sounds like it's worth me giving it a go. Did you jack up both the front and rear on the offside of the car or just use the front jacking point?

Next question to everyone.

Scorpion or Milltek?

I know technically they are just metal pipes but does anyone know off the top of their heads differences between the two? Build quality, thickness of the metal tubing, weight etc?
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Are these bypass pipes MoT legal, or does it depend on luck of the draw with the tester on the day?



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The vehicle will pass its emission test with the secondary cats removed (as it sill has the main primary cat) but the tester should be carrying out a "presence" check as part of his examination, so if he (or she) knows that the vehicle in question should have the secondary cats fitted as standard then its a fail once removed.

 

Most testers I know will pass if it passes the emission test.

 

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Thanks Marshy, sounds like it's worth me giving it a go. Did you jack up both the front and rear on the offside of the car or just use the front jacking point?
Next question to everyone.
Scorpion or Milltek?
I know technically they are just metal pipes but does anyone know off the top of their heads differences between the two? Build quality, thickness of the metal tubing, weight etc?


Scorpion are just as good if not better than Miltek but don't cost anywhere near as much.
I have Scorpion and I inspected them thoroughly before fitting.
They are definitely quality items. The rest of the system is of the same quality.

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The vehicle will pass its emission test with the secondary cats removed (as it sill has the main primary cat) but the tester should be carrying out a "presence" check as part of his examination, so if he (or she) knows that the vehicle in question should have the secondary cats fitted as standard then its a fail once removed.
 
Most testers I know will pass if it passes the emission test.
 
Mark 


It's always helpful having a friendly knowledgable MOT tester who's happy to do the MOT for you ;)

Mark would suggest one if you ask him, if your in the South.

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Thanks for that chaps. Do you have a Scorpion exhaust Mr Freeze, or just the bypass pipes?



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Scorpion are just as good if not better than Miltek but don't cost anywhere near as much.
I have Scorpion and I inspected them thoroughly before fitting.
They are definitely quality items. The rest of the system is of the same quality.


Thanks Mr Freeze that's all I wanted to know. £30 cheaper to boot.
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I jacked the front up which lifted the back anyway, so I lifted the rear to and out an axle stand in.
Differences from what I gather are very little apart from the scorpion cost £150 and doesn't have the little tags on saying not for road use like the Milltek does.

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Hi can you tell me if fitting the bypass pipes will put on the engine management light if the car isn't remapped ??

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Nope, there are no sensors near them to trigger such an ECU response.



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Scorpion are just as good if not better than Miltek but don't cost anywhere near as much.
I have Scorpion and I inspected them thoroughly before fitting.
They are definitely quality items. The rest of the system is of the same quality.


And they come with a Sticker.😀

Edited by DAYTONA-500, 20 April 2015 - 05:57 PM.


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I jacked the front up which lifted the back anyway, so I lifted the rear to and out an axle stand in.
Differences from what I gather are very little apart from the scorpion cost £150 and doesn't have the little tags on saying not for road use like the Milltek does.

 

Thanks again. I'm sold on the Scorpion pipes. If my local MOT centre fails it I will just re-fit the Cat pipes and get it through on the re-test.


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Thanks for that chaps. Do you have a Scorpion exhaust Mr Freeze, or just the bypass pipes?

Yes, started with fitting the bypass pipes, then went on to get the cat back non res system.

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And they come with a Sticker.😀


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I'm debating whether to go for res or non res - how do you find the non res on motorways, any drone (excluding that which may come from any passengers, of course  :)) ?



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There can be some drone at certain times, it's funny if you're pushing on its like the sound is thrown further away and sounds sweet.

At any speed, if you're accellerating gradually, it seems like 3k rpm is the spot where you get the worst drone.

Equate that to motorway driving and you have to be in excess of 70 to get there.

I won't lie, at times it can be a touch uncomfortable, but mine is a fun car, and as such when I drive it I'm having fun and listening to Lightning growl, can't help but put a smile on your face.

I don't know where you are but if you're close enough to come listen, I'll gladly take you for a spin.

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As Neil has said above, there can be a "drone" at certain RPM / road speed combinations, Mine is fitted with a full Milltek system and being critical it can drone a little at 100 Mph, but as he also states the "fun" & "growl" far out weighs any negatives :D  

 

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As Neil has said above, there can be a "drone" at certain RPM / road speed combinations, Mine is fitted with a full Milltek system and being critical it can drone a little at 100 Mph, but as he also states the "fun" & "growl" far out weighs any negatives :D  

 

Mark 

 

Is the full system res or non res?






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