[sawda]

Ok as some of you lovely folks may already know I have recently acquired a near perfect specimen of an RS3. Like most of us who bought the RS3 we are in love with its power and stealth as well as its practicality. i have searched the forums and surprised to find that there hasn't been much in the way of threads relating to remaps (unless someone points me in the right detection).

 

Why would I consider remapping? Well like so many of us its that need for speed that drives us. In real life I drive about 4K a year commuting to and from work and once in a while may get a chance to let her rip down the 1/4 mile. i already love the car and its way more powerful than anyone needs living in London but if there is more on offer its always so  tempting to take it.

 

Here are my thoughts.

 

1. Warranty. I have a 2013 RS with warranty until 2015, the remap will no doubt invalidate much of the cars components. Has anyone had any bad/ good experiences they can share with this car or even another car?

 

2. Can the car handle it? Breaks, suspension, prop shaft, can they take the extra torque and hp? Has anyone experienced any problems? 

 

3. Stage 1 remap  or more? do or would the car really benefit from changing inter cooler, intake, exhaust, from what I have read not much in it for stage 1 vs stage 2 etc?

 

4. Resale and depreciation. Part of the appeal of the RS3 is it limited numbers. A remapped RS3 with aftermarket parts inst going to be as desirable as an RS3 all oem or am I wrong? When my break discs are worn I would consider a brembo set of discs and pads but then the oem factor does have its appeal. Be interested in your thoughts.

 

5. Fuel economy. Currently my average mpg is sub 20 for sure as in stop start traffic on short runs... will this remain the same or improve?

 

6. Which remap? APR and REVO seem to be all over the place. I previously used AMD essex for my TT and I believe they use APR software and was happy with their service and set up but every car is different so would be interested to hear anyone's thoughts. Is anyone looking to stick with stock?

 

I am sure many those of you who have done the remap have thought the same things. Would love to hear the good and bad and any body who has been thinking the same thing as me.

 

An advanced apology if this has been covered recently but couldn't find anything in the search engine.

 

Thanks to all.

[Uncle Fester]

Just put remap into the forum homepage search box theres plenty of topics there.

[sawda]

Have scanned forum and best thread I can find is about fletch's devastating prop shaft incident which does address some of my thoughts having read it begining to end but there ist be more than that put there.

[MacD]

Have scanned forum and best thread I can find is about fletch's devastating prop shaft incident which does address some of my thoughts having read it begining to end but there ist be more than that put there.

 

 

Which could happen regardless of which tuner you choose, in fact it could go on a standard car.

 

The majority have gone with APR,  Be aware the quoted figures online are a little bit of a myth however drivability and the torque given by APR make it well worthwhile. 

 

I chose APR and it really made the car a complete animal,  I had no issues with the car and i did push it to the limit at every opportunity.

 

IMHO stage 2 doesn't warrant the extra cost vs stage 1with what you gain,  Personally go for stage 1 then if thats not enough consider the jump to stage 3.

 

With regard to warranty, Audi appear to be becoming more vigilant when it comes to the turbo'd cars and software, I never had an issue but a few have so it really depends on the extend of your claim i.e. a wheel/brake/bodywork issue isn't going to be scrutinised like a transmission or engine issue would be.

 

When you come to sell the car i'm not sure a map makes it any better or worse with depreciation,  I think many people look for unmolested cars however that will change as they get older and more affordable to those wishing to tune them.

 

My fuel economy did increase on the motorway by 1-2mpg

[sawda]

Which could happen regardless of which tuner you choose, in fact it could go on a standard car.

The majority have gone with APR, Be aware the quoted figures online are a little bit of a myth however drivability and the torque given by APR make it well worthwhile.

I chose APR and it really made the car a complete animal, I had no issues with the car and i did push it to the limit at every opportunity.

IMHO stage 2 doesn't warrant the extra cost vs stage 1with what you gain, Personally go for stage 1 then if thats not enough consider the jump to stage 3.

With regard to warranty, Audi appear to be becoming more vigilant when it comes to the turbo'd cars and software, I never had an issue but a few have so it really depends on the extend of your claim i.e. a wheel/brake/bodywork issue isn't going to be scrutinised like a transmission or engine issue would be.

When you come to sell the car i'm not sure a map makes it any better or worse with depreciation, I think many people look for unmolested cars however that will change as they get older and more affordable to those wishing to tune them.

My fuel economy did increase on the motorway by 1-2mpg

Thank you so much again MacD. I think I share your sentiment in regards going APR. When I remapped the TT I think my mpg was the same if not worse.. not sure of that's because I only really do short journeys. Very tempted by the remap as you say it's an animal... No doubt I will do it. Currently have 2 years warranty left so maybe sensibly and hold off a whole at least until I get to know my car better. I have to agree that stage 1 seems to make more sense to me. As much as I loved the milteck and intake combo an my tt, for the RS3 I quite like to keep it stock. I know it's only a few lines but your experience really helps and looking forward to becoming an experienced knee myself as wish to keep the car for quite some time... Thanks again

[MacD]

No worries.

The 2nd cat bypass is a must and a cheap mod at around £100

[sawda]

No worries.

The 2nd cat bypass is a must and a cheap mod at around £100

As I've never done a 2nd car bypass how will this benefit the car... I presume come mot time won't effect emissions?

[Jmcnamee98]

Ok as some of you lovely folks may already know I have recently acquired a near perfect specimen of an RS3. Like most of us who bought the RS3 we are in love with its power and stealth as well as its practicality. i have searched the forums and surprised to find that there hasn't been much in the way of threads relating to remaps (unless someone points me in the right detection).

 

Why would I consider remapping? Well like so many of us its that need for speed that drives us. In real life I drive about 4K a year commuting to and from work and once in a while may get a chance to let her rip down the 1/4 mile. i already love the car and its way more powerful than anyone needs living in London but if there is more on offer its always so  tempting to take it.

 

Do not use West London Audi or Finchley Road Audi however Jack Barclay are excellent.

 

Here are my thoughts.

 

1. Warranty. I have a 2013 RS with warranty until 2015, the remap will no doubt invalidate much of the cars components. Has anyone had any bad/ good experiences they can share with this car or even another car?

 

I have had a lot of warranty work multiple sets of squeaky brakes cv joint driveshaft and transmission unit so worth keeping the warranty if you can. 

 

2. Can the car handle it? Breaks, suspension, prop shaft, can they take the extra torque and hp? Has anyone experienced any problems? 

 

Brakes are good but depending on usage could be better. Everyone seems to be putting on RedStuff pads I have some uprated rear discs to go with them too waiting to be fitted. Suspension is good uprated rear ARB's seem to get good reviews. Props can go on a standard car there are uprated bolts you can fit.

 

3. Stage 1 remap  or more? do or would the car really benefit from changing inter cooler, intake, exhaust, from what I have read not much in it for stage 1 vs stage 2 etc?

 

I have gone Stage II only because a cheap opportunity to change the downpipe came along. Deepening on what you pay its not necessarily worth it you'll make APR's TQ figures but not the BHP unless you have the intercooler. Intercooler really holds these cars back but many insurance companies don't like you changing them. I will have a Stage II downpipe for sale soon I have a custom cat less one fitted with secondary cat bypass pipes but in the interests of science I have acquired an APR one with sports cat which ever one I decide I dont prefer will go up for sale.

 

4. Resale and depreciation. Part of the appeal of the RS3 is it limited numbers. A remapped RS3 with aftermarket parts inst going to be as desirable as an RS3 all oem or am I wrong? When my break discs are worn I would consider a brembo set of discs and pads but then the oem factor does have its appeal. Be interested in your thoughts.

 

You could always put it back to standard for resale if a modified one concerned you. If you looking to replace discs the Dave Brown Vagbremtechnic loba front disc upgrade gets very good reviews. 

 

5. Fuel economy. Currently my average mpg is sub 20 for sure as in stop start traffic on short runs... will this remain the same or improve?

 

I live in central London and fuel economy only drops below 20 mpg on very short runs or if I'm driving like an idiot lol. Get anywhere near a motorway and it 20 - 24 mpg ... I don't sit there at 69 mph.

 

6. Which remap? APR and REVO seem to be all over the place. I previously used AMD essex for my TT and I believe they use APR software and was happy with their service and set up but every car is different so would be interested to hear anyone's thoughts. Is anyone looking to stick with stock?

 

Most people on here have gone with APR although most don't make the BHP figure, you do make the TQ. APR's TQ and BHP figures are higher than anyone else's. Revo can now apparently tune without removing the ecu. In my experience every time anyone needs to do anything to an APR map on the RS3 the ecu needs to come out. Revo have had some over boost issues reported causing limp mode but can do switchable maps. Its personal choice but a map makes the car a very different animal 

 

I am sure many those of you who have done the remap have thought the same things. Would love to hear the good and bad and any body who has been thinking the same thing as me.

 

An advanced apology if this has been covered recently but couldn't find anything in the search engine.

 

Thanks to all.

[Jmcnamee98]

As I've never done a 2nd car bypass how will this benefit the car... I presume come mot time won't effect emissions?

 

IF you leave your primary Cat intact and don't go Stage II you should pass an emissions test with secondary cat bypass pipes. However a very MOT strict tester could still fail you as you would no longer have type approval on the exhaust i.e. the same number of cats fitted as standard which is 3.

 

It all depends on how good a relationship you have with the tester / garage / dealer you are using. Secondary cat bypass pipes are held in place with 3 bolts at either end so 12 in total. Its quick easy and cheap to refit the secondary cats for an MOT which I had to do but I have no primary Cat.

[Paul]

Hi John, was that the Ebay APR exhaust? That looked abit cut and shut?

[Jmcnamee98]

Hi Paul it was the Ebay APR exhaust it seems fine however the OEM resonators have been removed and straight pipes welded in, in there place. The joins in the exhaust have been welded to aid flow from what I can see the sports cat looks seems feels OK.

I'm just playing really I have a Stage II downpipe but am interested to see what power I make with an MOT friendly setup.

 

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[sawda]

Jmcnamee98 thanks you so much... Defiantly helped me a lot and no doubt any new or future user thinking the same thing... I didn't check my breaks before I bought them and being a 2013 edition it does have the update breaks. So far I have had no issue and have tried to push the breaks for squeals etc. I think I will leave the car stock for a while to see if there are anyway warranty issues. That being soar I have read so many of you having problems with cars with les than 10k on the clock which is awful! Mine currwnlty has 19k so I don't know if that a a good thing or not as may have it's bugs ironed out? Whatever it is I Currently can not fault it at all..... Thanks once more for all your values opinions and welcome anyone else's inputs.

[Kelza]

Apr all the way !

[Vito]

I think everything has already been said, so I 'll just say YES, remap it, bring the best out of it !! You can, why not? 

[Kelza]

Totally transforms car

[Vito]

Oh and go for APR 

[Kelza]

I thought you had revo vito ?

[P_G]

With that reg. plate?

[Kelza]

Lol what reg plate 👍😄😂😂

[sawda]

Apr it is then.... Has everyone changed the bolts and decatted?