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For stage 3 or above does anyone know if someone has ever fitted a charge cooler as well as an IC?

I’ve seen this done on a 600hp Escort Cosworth in preference to upgrading the IC to bigger that the already massive one they had to stop loss of boost. I’m guessing it could be an issue having space to install one.

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For stage 3 or above does anyone know if someone has ever fitted a charge cooler as well as an IC?

I’ve seen this done on a 600hp Escort Cosworth in preference to upgrading the IC to bigger that the already massive one they had to stop loss of boost. I’m guessing it could be an issue having space to install one.

 

I had to look at this as the terminology has been properly bastardised with the modding 'scene' over the years  :wacko:

 

I have always known them as an 'air-to-water intercooler' even though they are all technically aftercoolers :D In my day 'charge cooler' was the term to cover all means of cooling the charge......anyway...... :sleep:

 

My take would be if you can't get enough cooling with a normal air-to-air intercooler (I see IROZ do a 1000bhp one) and need to start plumbing in pumps etc I would be looking at water injection.

 

I used to use water injection in the days before intercoolers when we started to tweak boost pressures on early turbo cars and the water injection used to cut the temperatures and detonation dead.

 

What are your goals with this? what are you aiming for ? What you use it for makes quite a bit of difference to what you do to the car.



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I had to look at this as the terminology has been properly bastardised with the modding 'scene' over the years  :wacko:
 
I have always known them as an 'air-to-water intercooler' even though they are all technically aftercoolers :D In my day 'charge cooler' was the term to cover all means of cooling the charge......anyway...... :sleep:
 
My take would be if you can't get enough cooling with a normal air-to-air intercooler (I see IROZ do a 1000bhp one) and need to start plumbing in pumps etc I would be looking at water injection.
 
I used to use water injection in the days before intercoolers when we started to tweak boost pressures on early turbo cars and the water injection used to cut the temperatures and detonation dead.
 
What are your goals with this? what are you aiming for ? What you use it for makes quite a bit of difference to what you do to the car.


I was really just exploring if anyone had tried this because I remember having it on a Rover 620 turbo as and it didn’t lower the boost pressure like some big ICs can. I’ve written off the idea now after the tuning company I’m using said the RS3 engine base won’t have enough space. I have a Forge unit and WMI being fitted. My car was used by CSF to take measurements and mock up a template for a new intercooler coming out later this year. They were confident they could make a better IC that anything else on the market by utilising the available space better and I will get one for free when the first batch is made.

I do rate the IROZ kit but I’m not sure on the 1000hp core after seeing the review. It’s 1.5 inches taller and no thicker, with the extra height being covered by the crash bar. I can’t see how that would relate to an extra 25% capability when it’s nowhere near a 25% increase in surface area or volume. I’m no expert on ICs I’d stand corrected if someone knows better.

Thanks for the reply and putting some thought into it.



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