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Hi there

I’m looking at upgrading my dogbone mount there’s a few out there I see 034 is a popular one however I also see APR do one made of stainless steel I’m thinking with it being made of stainless steel this makes it stronger and more rigid compare to a aluminium option that a lot are made from

Any thoughts and experiences with the APR please

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Hi there

I’m looking at upgrading my dogbone mount there’s a few out there I see 034 is a popular one however I also see APR do one made of stainless steel I’m thinking with it being made of stainless steel this makes it stronger and more rigid compare to a aluminium option that a lot are made from

Any thoughts and experiences with the APR please

Cheers


I know APR launched this recently.

https://www.goapr.co..._mqb_dq500.html

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Hi there

I’m looking at upgrading my dogbone mount there’s a few out there I see 034 is a popular one however I also see APR do one made of stainless steel I’m thinking with it being made of stainless steel this makes it stronger and more rigid compare to a aluminium option that a lot are made from

Any thoughts and experiences with the APR please

Cheers

 

Huwgo.

 

Stainless steel is more brittle that aluminum & may pass on more vibration mate. :89:

 

Dell.



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Hi

That’s the negative I was thinking regarding using stainless with the NVH issue

I was just wondering if anyone has experienced one

I think I’ll stick with the aluminium as it’s proven tried and tested on here 👍

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Going off the topic

Do you think it’s worth uprating the hoses while replacing the intercooler??

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I know APR launched this recently.

https://www.goapr.co..._mqb_dq500.html

Looks nice but I thought the slop came from the large subframe mounting.
Wonder how much it is? Couldn’t see a price.

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Forget that £260!!!!!!

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Hi

I was actually looking at the £68 APR mount that fits directly in the subframe

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Hi

I was actually looking at the £68 APR mount that fits directly in the subframe

Cheers


Yes I know just thought I’d link the above pendulum replacement mount.

A good bush insert I’m told is the Forge one.

I’ve also heard the powerflex silicone inserts are ok too. They come in Yellow (softest) or purple (harder)

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Forget that £260!!!!!!


Are you ok Kev! sounds like you’ve had a shock

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Hi

Thanks for that T-800 👍

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I did the Powerflex solution.

you need a 15mm drill!

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Edited by Renga, 08 November 2018 - 08:29 AM.


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I know APR launched this recently.

https://www.goapr.co..._mqb_dq500.html

I am getting a bit of knocking from the transmission  sometimes and think it time to look at the mounting.

 

Question: Is the APR offering worth the extra? It certainly looks well machined, but what does it give that a bit of Powerflex polystuff does not?


Edited by Hal, 09 November 2018 - 01:04 PM.


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I am getting a bit of knocking from the transmission  sometimes and think it time to look at the mounting.
 
Question: Is the APR offering worth the extra? It certainly looks well machined, but what does it give that a bit of Powerflex polystuff does not?


More's the point how much more in ££££ do you give ?

I have a 034 insert but I would be more than happy tbh with the powerflex insert after fitting there one for the gearbox.mount.😁

Dell.

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Hi there

I’m looking at upgrading my dogbone mount there’s a few out there I see 034 is a popular one however I also see APR do one made of stainless steel I’m thinking with it being made of stainless steel this makes it stronger and more rigid compare to a aluminium option that a lot are made from

Any thoughts and experiences with the APR please

Cheers

I haven't had an experience with the APR dog bone insert but I have used the 034 Motorsport and now also the Forge version too. Be aware that the aluminum ones do tend to bend after a while (as per pic below - the damage and scrape marks came from when it was removed.). The 034 one was fitted to my PFL car, it did seem to make a small difference to how the car turned in and changing up through the gears under hard acceleration. There was no real noticeable vibration through the cabin.

I fitted the Forge version (the black one in the pic below) to my FL car but have to say that I have not really noticed any benefits. When the car was on the dyno a few weeks ago we could see that the engine/gearbox does not move about as much though.

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Edited by Fivepotfan, 10 November 2018 - 10:27 AM.

now driving a 'Daytona Lite' FL car.


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Never heard of the ECS one.
Looks well thought out.
https://www.awesomeg...t-mqb-platform/

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From the last few replies, I have it such:

 

APR - muchas dineros  :)

034 - implodes  :)

Forge - Little improvement (?)  :)

ECS - Generally good reports from the VW users  :)

Powerflex - not many users, but these seem happy.  :)

 

Price for Powerflex is not bad, so maybe the way to go (plus, I need some bushes for my little Skoda, so can combine postage) - Yellow or Purple?   :wacko:



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On my previous S3 I fitted a powrflex insert the yellow one and the vibration was horrendous!
I removed it and fitted the red diesel version which gave 95% of the improvements with no additional vibration.
When I eventually get round to doing mine I think it’ll either be the ECS one I’ve listed or a red diesel powerflex one.

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From the last few replies, I have it such:

APR - muchas dineros :)
034 - implodes :)
Forge - Little improvement (?) :)
ECS - Generally good reports from the VW users :)
Powerflex - not many users, but these seem happy. :)

Price for Powerflex is not bad, so maybe the way to go (plus, I need some bushes for my little Skoda, so can combine postage) - Yellow or Purple? :wacko:


I chap I know had the purple one fitted and hated it.
He then got the yellow fitted and loved it.

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You guys are not making it easy, are you? :rolleyes:

So it is between yellow and red now..?





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