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It's definitely the oem pads causing squeal, and the discs causing judder. I still can't quite grasp how Audi got it so wrong

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Especially when some of you on here paid up to £50k + for this car just not on and feel for some of you with the never ending grief you might have incurred

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So my car is approaching 30k miles and the discs are giving me light shuddering even on minor fast drives.
I've decided I'm going to bite the bullet and replace the lot to save any more headaches.
Tarox discs front and back and Redstuff/ferrodo pads are the plan. They go on with the MSS kit I received recently.
Two questions though;
Braided brake lines - any point in these?
Brake fluid - is the OEM Audi stuff fine or is it worth getting something else?

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Brake fluid - is the OEM Audi stuff fine or is it worth getting something else?

 


Edited by EdmundVR4, 06 December 2017 - 10:59 AM.


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Racing brake fluid is recommended if you are doing any track days. I've gotten the soft, mushy brake pedal after racing on circuit, so I'm going to use Red Line RL-600 for my next circuit session.

I've tracked my car three times so far and my only issue is the soft pedal late in the day... pads and rotors are stock.

 

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Especially when some of you on here paid up to £50k + for this car just not on and feel for some of you with the never ending grief you might have incurred

 

Firstly, I am new on here so please be gentle. Basically, I am currently a Golf R owner "thinking about an RS3" and thought this would be a good place to do some initial "real world homework". I knew that there was some sort of "brake issue" with the RS3, but reading this thread has been a eye-opener to say the least. I agree with Dan that the issues are totally unacceptable in a £50k car, especially when the quality of the brakes is one of the things that should really stand out in a performance car.

 

It seems like the issue goes back to 2015 (?), so surely plenty of time for Audi to have fixed it for the release of the 2017 FL model? Especially as they seem to have fixed some far more difficult problems (e.g. front end handling). It would appear that there is an Audi TPI for the brake judder issue (specifically), so does that mean that they would replace the whole (front) brake assemblies with different discs/pads under warranty (subject to some reasonable mileage limit)? Obviously not much point in them replacing with the same components if the issue is essentially a design flaw - even if the problems can be mitigated to some extent by driving style/practice. And do Audi dealerships tend to regard the brake squeal as just "one of those [annoying] things", if not a stopping performance issue? In any event (squeal +/- judder), most on here seem resigned to replacing the pads and also possibly the discs with aftermarket items at their own considerable expense (after less than 10k miles in some cases), which just seems wrong to me. Any official response from Audi UK? (Apologies if this has been covered in other threads). 

 

My experience with Audi has been pretty good up to now (having previously owned a lovely 2009 ex-demo S3, bought from a good local dealership), but this is shaking my confidence a bit. 

 

Regards, Phil



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In short, there have been two issues with the brakes, juddering and noise.
Juddering appears to have been fixed by the newest non wavy discs.
Noise remains an issue related to the pad compound. If you buy an RS3 or TTRS, just buy some EBC redstuff as soon as you get the car and your problem is solved.
Audi dealerships are mostly trying random fixes to try and resolve things, so might as well skip all that and just get on with it

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Firstly, I am new on here so please be gentle. Basically, I am currently a Golf R owner "thinking about an RS3" and thought this would be a good place to do some initial "real world homework". I knew that there was some sort of "brake issue" with the RS3, but reading this thread has been a eye-opener to say the least. I agree with Dan that the issues are totally unacceptable in a £50k car, especially when the quality of the brakes is one of the things that should really stand out in a performance car.

It seems like the issue goes back to 2015 (?), so surely plenty of time for Audi to have fixed it for the release of the 2017 FL model? Especially as they seem to have fixed some far more difficult problems (e.g. front end handling). It would appear that there is an Audi TPI for the brake judder issue (specifically), so does that mean that they would replace the whole (front) brake assemblies with different discs/pads under warranty (subject to some reasonable mileage limit)? Obviously not much point in them replacing with the same components if the issue is essentially a design flaw - even if the problems can be mitigated to some extent by driving style/practice. And do Audi dealerships tend to regard the brake squeal as just "one of those [annoying] things", if not a stopping performance issue? In any event (squeal +/- judder), most on here seem resigned to replacing the pads and also possibly the discs with aftermarket items at their own considerable expense (after less than 10k miles in some cases), which just seems wrong to me. Any official response from Audi UK? (Apologies if this has been covered in other threads).

My experience with Audi has been pretty good up to now (having previously owned a lovely 2009 ex-demo S3, bought from a good local dealership), but this is shaking my confidence a bit.

Regards, Phil

When I was looking a read up on quite a few owners getting squeal on the mk1 ttrs and mk1 RS3. Loads of info on this problem on here mate and what current owners have gone through and done to resolve it. It’s an easy fix so don’t let it discourage you on what is a fantastic car.

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When I was looking a read up on quite a few owners getting squeal on the mk1 ttrs and mk1 RS3. Loads of info on this problem on here mate and what current owners have gone through and done to resolve it. It’s an easy fix so don’t let it discourage you on what is a fantastic car.


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There' are also owners who have had no problems with the brake & I know of one such owner including myself.

Dell.



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